Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-28-2024, 12:13 PM   #25741
Macindoc
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack View Post
lol TSN top 5 trade bait board has the Hanifin/Tanev 1,2 Guentzel at 3, Henrique at 4 and rounding out the top 5 is Edmontons 2024 1st.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa

https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-top-ra...082073?tsn-amp
Also note that Saros, whom some have described as a better trade target than Markstrom, is #50.
Macindoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:14 PM   #25742
Heavy Jack
Franchise Player
 
Heavy Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM View Post
Interesting because no one will see him actually perform. He's skating now but can't be in a game until March 10.
I feel like Vancouver could feel pressure to add especially with how underwhelming Lindy has been to start, with all the EP smoke you’d have to think there is a tad bit more pressure to push chips all in and deal with potential ramifications in the offseason. I could see the nucks making a splash for Guentzel while using his recent injury to try and mitigate the cost as much as possible.
Heavy Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:15 PM   #25743
topfiverecords
Franchise Player
 
topfiverecords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM View Post
Interesting because no one will see him actually perform. He's skating now but can't be in a game until March 10.
I think by now teams know what they'd get in Guentzel.
topfiverecords is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:15 PM   #25744
Canada 02
Franchise Player
 
Canada 02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Exp:
Default

Dave Pagnotta says Jusse Saros wants $8M+ on his next contract. If true, I think that helps Marky's summertime trade value when the best/biggest alternative is asking for a huge payday.
Canada 02 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Canada 02 For This Useful Post:
Old 02-28-2024, 12:15 PM   #25745
Heavy Jack
Franchise Player
 
Heavy Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc View Post
Also note that Saros, whom some have described as a better trade target than Markstrom, is #50.
I think the biggest reason for that is because Saros has basically been taken off the market with Nashville surging and occupying a wild card position.
Heavy Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:17 PM   #25746
Heavy Jack
Franchise Player
 
Heavy Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada 02 View Post
Dave Pagnotta says Jusse Saros wants $8M+ on his next contract. If true, I think that helps Marky's summertime trade value when the best/biggest alternative is asking for a huge payday.
That paired with the fact that Trotz was expecting ‘the moon’ back if he were to trade him, I can’t see the Devils not reconsidering JM before the deadline… honestly Philly too with the Hart situation and them occupying a division spot.
Heavy Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:19 PM   #25747
Enoch Root
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13 View Post
Philly making room to acquire a goalie?
Enoch Root is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:20 PM   #25748
HitterD
Powerplay Quarterback
 
HitterD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In my office...is it 5:00 yet???
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack View Post
That paired with the fact that Trotz was expecting ‘the moon’ back if he were to trade him, I can’t see the Devils not reconsidering JM before the deadline… honestly Philly too with the Hart situation and them occupying a division spot.
I figure Philly would be in the market for Vladar rather than Markstrom. Ersson has been pretty good all season for them and is only 24
HitterD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:21 PM   #25749
Macindoc
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack View Post
That paired with the fact that Trotz was expecting ‘the moon’ back if he were to trade him, I can’t see the Devils not reconsidering JM before the deadline… honestly Philly too with the Hart situation and them occupying a division spot.
...in spite of the fact that his goals saved above expected total for this season is -1.9, leaving him 61st in the league in that stat.
Macindoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:23 PM   #25750
blankall
Ate 100 Treadmills
 
blankall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada 02 View Post
Dave Pagnotta says Jusse Saros wants $8M+ on his next contract. If true, I think that helps Marky's summertime trade value when the best/biggest alternative is asking for a huge payday.
Is that a huge payday for one of the only long time stable #1 goalies in the NHL? Saros seems like one of the few goalies who would be guaranteed to play at a #1 level through the course of a longer contract. Seems like an understatement if anything.
blankall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:23 PM   #25751
Heavy Jack
Franchise Player
 
Heavy Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
Exp:
Default

Markstrom at some amount of retention and being a proven starter has a ton of value to a team with an up and coming tendy. You have to be really careful at those ages too, so many ascend too quickly and fizzle out because of it. I get what you’re saying and could definitely see them having interest in Vald, but Marky would be a stabilizing presence in the crease and not for just this year.
Heavy Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Heavy Jack For This Useful Post:
Old 02-28-2024, 12:25 PM   #25752
Baaarrden
Scoring Winger
 
Baaarrden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Red Mile
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada 02 View Post
Dave Pagnotta says Jusse Saros wants $8M+ on his next contract. If true, I think that helps Marky's summertime trade value when the best/biggest alternative is asking for a huge payday.
Would $8M be considered excessive for a goalie like Saros? Considering his stats over his career and some of the other goalie contracts handed out over the last 10 years, I don't personally think $8M is out of line for a goalie of his caliber. The only issue I might see with that is that it seems more teams are running a 1A/1B tandem these days and so perhaps $8M on a 1A goalie would make it challenging for a team run a strong tandem.
Baaarrden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:26 PM   #25753
Nelson
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
Philly making room to acquire a goalie?
I was listening to Ray and Dregs, because someone on here posted one of their shows. Dregs was saying there was a mystery team inquiring about Saros which would make Ray laugh if he heard the team’s name. Maybe that team is Philly, and you’d laugh because they’ve needed a goalie forever.
Nelson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:26 PM   #25754
Macindoc
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack View Post
Markstrom at some amount of retention and being a proven starter has a ton of value to a team with an up and coming tendy. You have to be really careful at those ages too, so many ascend too quickly and fizzle out because of it. I get what you’re saying and could definitely see them having interest in Vald, but Marky would be a stabilizing presence in the crease and not for just this year.
What, you mean an up and coming goaltender like Wolf?
Macindoc is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Macindoc For This Useful Post:
Old 02-28-2024, 12:29 PM   #25755
Heavy Jack
Franchise Player
 
Heavy Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc View Post
...in spite of the fact that his goals saved above expected total for this season is -1.9, leaving him 61st in the league in that stat.
Nashville had a brutal, brutal start, I agree with you - right now Marky is a more valuable goalie I would agree as well - but we have to remember too, a large amount of us were very frustrated with Marky from his performance against Edmonton in round 2 all the way through all of last year, and while there was a lot of turmoil going on, people would have been laughed at if the packages being rumoured around Markstrom right now were suggested prior to Markstrom catching fire again. It’s an unprecedented scenario honestly, can’t remember this much smoke in the lead up to a TDL around high end starters.
Heavy Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:29 PM   #25756
Braden
Crash and Bang Winger
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Exp:
Default

Just give me lots of draft picks, I'll enjoy watching a boat load of prospects the next couple years. As it stands we only have 1 extra draft pick this year so far? We need many more!
Braden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:31 PM   #25757
Heavy Jack
Franchise Player
 
Heavy Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc View Post
What, you mean an up and coming goaltender like Wolf?
Was responding to hitterd - thought I had hit the quote button; it was in response to Philly looking at Vlad over Marky, with Ersson having a good showing at 24 I think a retained Markstrom actually holds a ton of value for Philly and would keep NJD at bay making playoffs not quite a lock for them but definitely stronger. I doubt they do it but would understand if they did, playoff aspirations can make teams do some crazy things at TDLs
Heavy Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Heavy Jack For This Useful Post:
Old 02-28-2024, 12:38 PM   #25758
Paulie Walnuts
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Exp:
Default

Markstrom was #1 a few weeks ago and fallen to #10 now.

Depressing.
Paulie Walnuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:40 PM   #25759
Sylvanfan
Appealing my suspension
 
Sylvanfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baaarrden View Post
Would $8M be considered excessive for a goalie like Saros? Considering his stats over his career and some of the other goalie contracts handed out over the last 10 years, I don't personally think $8M is out of line for a goalie of his caliber. The only issue I might see with that is that it seems more teams are running a 1A/1B tandem these days and so perhaps $8M on a 1A goalie would make it challenging for a team run a strong tandem.
The term will likely be more of an issue as he will be 31 to start the deal. 5 years or less, might be okay. Longer has risks. Other issue is a starter that age for that long can block the younger guys. So for New Jersey players like Schmid and Dawes still are part of the plan I suspect. Just not fully cooked today.
__________________
"Some guys like old balls"
Patriots QB Tom Brady
Sylvanfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2024, 12:43 PM   #25760
Heavy Jack
Franchise Player
 
Heavy Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
Markstrom was #1 a few weeks ago and fallen to #10 now.

Depressing.
That board has the Edmonton 1st round pick listed as 5th best piece available… wouldn’t put that much stock into it lol.
Heavy Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Heavy Jack For This Useful Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:00 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy