2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by BeltlineFan

You and Nelson are both correct. It's a condition in the Huberdeau trade that if Florida's pick is top 10, it transfers to 2026.

Right. I see that as a condition of the Tkachuk trade, not the Monahan trade, if the FLA's 2025 1st is a lottery pick, the Flames gets FLA's 2026 1st. So, there are two ways CGY does not receive FLA's 2025 1st: (1) Philly has FLA's 2025 1st because FLA's 2024 1st is top-10, or (2) FLA's 2025 1st is a lottery pick.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by traptor

Trade deadline predictions

Markstrom (33% retained) for Vanacek + Mercer + 2025 2nd (becomes 2024 1st if Njd make playoffs)

Tanev (50% retained) to dallas for 2024 1st

Hanifin to Detroit for 2025 1st (top 10 protected) + 2024 3rd + Wallinder + Maata

Change wallinder to buium and it looks fantastic to me.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Just my opinion. I'm told something is going down but no details as to which player(s).

Oh ####!!! Here we go

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Saqe

If the Flames sell Markstrom they are going to stink for many years. I would put money on bottoming out for the next 2-3, getting a couple of top 5 picks and then gradually start getting better.

That's definitely one possibility. I think a lot depends on what type of assets they get back.

There will be some decent tandem goalies available this summer.

Backups: Rittich, Brossoit, Quick, Nadeljkovic, Driedger, Stolarz

Starters(?): Talbot, Fleury

Or the Flames could use some assets to try and get Swayman(RFA)

[Funkhouser]

Regardless of what returns in any trades in the next few weeks, the Flames should also be looking at trading away some wings before the deadline.

Current depth at wing:
LW - RW
Huberdeau - Kuzmenko
Zary - Pospisil
Mangiapane - Coleman
Pelletier - Duehr
Klapka - Coronato
Plus Sharangovich if we acquire a real centre!

Unless we see Pelletier and Coronato on the 4th line (I don't), we need to move out some wingers.

I would consider selling high on Coleman.
To Dallas:
Coleman (retained)
Tanev (retained)

To Cgy:
Stankoven
2024 1st
2025 3rd
Kyrou
Hakenpaa/Faksa (or another cap dump...)

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

That's definitely one possibility. I think a lot depends on what type of assets they get back.

There will be some decent tandem goalies available this summer.

Backups: Rittich, Brossoit, Quick, Nadeljkovic, Driedger, Stolarz

Starters(?): Talbot, Fleury

Or the Flames could use some assets to try and get Swayman(RFA)

Can't imagine they'll pay the price for Swayman without giving Wolf an extended look

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Hopefully I look like an idiot for saying this but starting to look like a Markstrom trade is not as imminent as it appeared 18 hours ago. Past noon on the east coast and no announcement or even rumours of an announcement.

Why?

What does past noon on the east coast have to do with anything?

Patience young grasshopper.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by traptor

Trade deadline predictions

Markstrom (33% retained) for Vanacek + Mercer + 2025 2nd (becomes 2024 1st if Njd make playoffs)

Tanev (50% retained) to dallas for 2024 1st

Hanifin to Detroit for 2025 1st (top 10 protected) + 2024 3rd + Wallinder + Maata

I’d be happy with all 3.

[topfiverecords]

It'll go down when sureLoss is ready for it to go down.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Regardless of what returns in any trades in the next few weeks, the Flames should also be looking at trading away some wings before the deadline.

Current depth at wing:
LW - RW
Huberdeau - Kuzmenko
Zary - Pospisil
Mangiapane - Coleman
Pelletier - Duehr
Klapka - Coronato
Plus Sharangovich if we acquire a real centre!

Unless we see Pelletier and Coronato on the 4th line (I don't), we need to move out some wingers.

I would consider selling high on Coleman.
To Dallas:
Coleman (retained)
Tanev (retained)

To Cgy:
Stankoven
2024 1st
2025 3rd
Kyrou
Hakenpaa/Faksa (or another cap dump...)

I doubt Dallas does that. Probably just Tanev (50%) for Faska and a 1st

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Where do we get d-men to replace our d-men both on the Flames and Wranglers short term?

That would be my concern.

[Cortez]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Where do we get d-men to replace our d-men both on the Flames and Wranglers short term?

That would be my concern.

The D-partment store

[UKflames]

The trade will only happen when we have 666 users in this thread.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Where do we get d-men to replace our d-men both on the Flames and Wranglers short term?

That would be my concern.

Take some bad tweeners back in trades

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Where do we get d-men to replace our d-men both on the Flames and Wranglers short term?

That would be my concern.

I wouldn't be too concerned. The GM is on record saying he does not support a rebuild the way many want, and believes that the kids need to brought up in a winning environment.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Where do we get d-men to replace our d-men both on the Flames and Wranglers short term?

That would be my concern.

Originally Posted by Cortez

The D-partment store

Todays a good day lol

[getbak]

Originally Posted by UKflames

The trade will only happen when we have 666 users in this thread.

The Devils in the details.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

That's definitely one possibility. I think a lot depends on what type of assets they get back.

There will be some decent tandem goalies available this summer.

Backups: Rittich, Brossoit, Quick, Nadeljkovic, Driedger, Stolarz

Starters(?): Talbot, Fleury

Or the Flames could use some assets to try and get Swayman(RFA)

Markstom playing Vezina level and they still aren't in a playoffs spot, any one of those will be a downgrade. And they're still missing a 1C and a 1D. I think it's great, exactly what's needed- get some high end talent through the draft by bottoming out. I know they want to stay competitive but I just don't see how you build a winner by collecting other teams' castoffs and secondary pieces, even if you get some solid assets back.

[Icon]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Where do we get d-men to replace our d-men both on the Flames and Wranglers short term?

That would be my concern.

If we trade Hanifin & Tanev, leaves us with:

Flames:
Weegar - Andersson
Kylington - Pachal
Oesterle - Gilbert


Wranglers still have:
Kuznetsov
Solovyov
Pysyk
Poolman
Lyle
Aspirot (AHL)
Gourley (AHL)

Plus Poirier whenever he's back

Plus they can sign fill ins to AHL deals if they need to.

Plus they may get D-men back in any of the trades they make.


No concern as far as not enough bodies to me. If we were making a playoff run, sure they should get some more guys in, but that's not an issue right now.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Must.. save.. thanks.. for the actual trade.