[News] Morgan Rielly pulls a Dale Hunter (Suspended 5 games)

[Dion]

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

I don't even care about the slapper. I just don't get how this high crosscheck is so much worse than the other crosschecks that are suspendable in the NHL other than a Leafs player did it so people get a chance to bash the Leafs.

Its a crosscheck to the head AFTER a goal was scored as the player is skating back to his bench, with 5 seconds left in the game.

Its a 5 or 6 gamer

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Okay, but wait, was that even Rielly’s thought process when cross-checking Greig? Or is everyone else just reading this “code” infraction into the situation? I dunno. Is there a reason to think that he wasn’t going to cross check him anyway for scoring?

Absolutely, why would he cross check him anyways? Greig shoots that in normally nothing happens.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

What I don't understand is, why is there no "code" against cross-checking guy in the face?

Who says it's over? Sens could still get payback.

[HockeyKhan]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

It's a suspendable crosscheck but people acting like it's some "heinous" act or whatever are just showing their Leaf hate or just don't know hockey. The guys on PTI talked about the Reilly hit. Guarantee they didn't even hear about the Perron hit. Everything gets blownup because fans of other teams love to talk about the Leafs and then complain about all the media attention they get. Case in point, this thread.

Maybe, but Leaf fans ( and the Media who all cater to Leaf fans)dissect every faccet of every game the leafs play. I find it hilarious you blame the attention on fans of other teams...

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Your colleagues can't form an argument that is why

I'm not even a guy and I'm on the "code" side. If I was addressing this with you at work here's what it is.

It's a trust issue. Both teams know to play within these guidelines. Play hard and fair, don't show anyone up. Who do you think you are to go outside those lines showing up the opponent when the other 39 players in the lineup know their place? How DARE you! These are things weasels like Kessler do.

Again, this is why we have NFL victory formations, NBA runs out the final few seconds under the shot clock, no bunting or stealing bases while up by alot, tennis cant go for the body, cricket don't bowl bouncers to tailenders, or soccer not kicking the ball out when a player is hurt or not giving the ball back afterwards. Heck, taking your shirt off in soccer is a yellow card and that's certainly not a safety issue. Sure they sound dumb (and are dumb) but those are the parameters of the game and everyone knows that. When players go outside of those imaginary boundaries that they all know being in that sport, the other team gets mad. In hockey, the net is a team's sacred thing. You cannot argue that Greig didn't know.

So is the goalie.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by neo45

Is that encouraging what Rielly did or discouraging what Greig did?


Because again, “scrum him really good” isn’t remotely a deterrent

Is violence how you go about deterring people from hurting your feelings in real life?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

Is violence how you go about deterring people from hurting your feelings in real life?

Everyone knows there is a real life code. You block my car on my own driveway by parking in front of my driveway and I get to take a crow bar to your car. It is code that almost anyone knows, a man’s house is his castle and you don’t mess with that.

[Whynotnow]

I just don’t understand hockey culture and the “code” most times, for supposedly being the toughest sport out there hockey players sure get their feelings hurt easily. I don’t exactly love the play on the goal, but also cannot for a second defend Reilly here. It was dumb, had nothing to do with hockey and should be punished.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Your colleagues can't form an argument that is why

I'm not even a guy and I'm on the "code" side. If I was addressing this with you at work here's what it is.

It's a trust issue. Both teams know to play within these guidelines. Play hard and fair, don't show anyone up. Who do you think you are to go outside those lines showing up the opponent when the other 39 players in the lineup know their place? How DARE you! These are things weasels like Kessler do.

Again, this is why we have NFL victory formations, NBA runs out the final few seconds under the shot clock, no bunting or stealing bases while up by alot, tennis cant go for the body, cricket don't bowl bouncers to tailenders, or soccer not kicking the ball out when a player is hurt or not giving the ball back afterwards. Heck, taking your shirt off in soccer is a yellow card and that's certainly not a safety issue. Sure they sound dumb (and are dumb) but those are the parameters of the game and everyone knows that. When players go outside of those imaginary boundaries that they all know being in that sport, the other team gets mad. In hockey, the net is a team's sacred thing. You cannot argue that Greig didn't know.

This is absurd

“Play hard and fair don’t show anyone up”

The NHL doesn’t follow that code.

A clean hard hit is put on a player and then there is the expectation that hitter should fight.

How ####ing soft and one of my main complaints with the sport.

This whole take is from left field.

[PepsiFree]

Every time someone tries to explain the code it becomes immediately clear that there are dozens of examples every game that go against the code where nobody even considers responding and that the code is actually just a made up excuse for acting like a troglodyte.

Man, woman, hockey player, broadcaster. No matter who you are, if you believe Greig’s action needed more response than “play better” or “respond in kind” then you’re a cave person. Here’s a couple rocks, enjoy smacking them together for a few hours. It’s impossible to defend the code here without undercutting your own intelligence.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by neo45

Because a scrum isn’t remotely a deterrent?

“Oh no please don’t SCRUM me”

Read the replies in the thread where Kesler did the same thing and got fed about 15 punches. The hypocrisy is hilarious

You are condoning a cross check to the head.

I have less issue with a punch to the head to be honest ... that's likely a 5 minute major and maybe a game.

Why do you need a deterrent for a guy shooting a puck into the net?

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Everyone knows there is a real life code. You block my car on my own driveway by parking in front of my driveway and I get to take a crow bar to your car. It is code that almost anyone knows, a man’s house is his castle and you don’t mess with that.

What the f?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

What the f?

I just assumed green text my man

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

It's because it was a Leaf player who did it and it always gets blown out of proportion. Wherewas the thread about the Perron crosscheck? That was way more vicious.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ghlight=perron

Nearly unanimous condemnation. Nobody was really stupid enough to defend it so it didn't go hundreds of posts.

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Your colleagues can't form an argument that is why

I'm not even a guy and I'm on the "code" side. If I was addressing this with you at work here's what it is.

It's a trust issue. Both teams know to play within these guidelines. Play hard and fair, don't show anyone up. Who do you think you are to go outside those lines showing up the opponent when the other 39 players in the lineup know their place? How DARE you! These are things weasels like Kessler do.

Again, this is why we have NFL victory formations, NBA runs out the final few seconds under the shot clock, no bunting or stealing bases while up by alot, tennis cant go for the body, cricket don't bowl bouncers to tailenders, or soccer not kicking the ball out when a player is hurt or not giving the ball back afterwards. Heck, taking your shirt off in soccer is a yellow card and that's certainly not a safety issue. Sure they sound dumb (and are dumb) but those are the parameters of the game and everyone knows that. When players go outside of those imaginary boundaries that they all know being in that sport, the other team gets mad. In hockey, the net is a team's sacred thing. You cannot argue that Greig didn't know.

Most of these examples are when a game is actually out of reach. Simply not true with a 1 goal lead in hockey.

If you're only up a point or two in hoops and turnover into a breakaway you can absolutely slam that down as hard as you'd like. You can pound your chest and scream to the crowd after you do it. You just won the game!

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Every time someone tries to explain the code it becomes immediately clear that there are dozens of examples every game that go against the code where nobody even considers responding and that the code is actually just a made up excuse for acting like a troglodyte.

Man, woman, hockey player, broadcaster. No matter who you are, if you believe Greig’s action needed more response than “play better” or “respond in kind” then you’re a cave person. Here’s a couple rocks, enjoy smacking them together for a few hours. It’s impossible to defend the code here without undercutting your own intelligence.

Hertl once scored a goal between the legs when his team was up 7-2. No one clubbed him over the head. I would say that was a much more blatant example of showboating that didn't require retribution for some reason.

This reinforces your point that the code is usually just an excuse to throw a tantrum.

The biggest reason this type of stuff continues to happen is the inconsistent application of the rules. Had Rielly cross checked Greig in the shoulder instead of the head its 50-50 whether it would have even been called a penalty. When players know they are rarely going to be punished for acting out, they will continue to do so.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

What the f?

Should have used green text.

[GioforPM]

So a slap shot is against the code. What about a snap shot? A wicked wrister top shelf? Backhand? What a bout a Datsyuk lob? Skating it into the net?

What shot is acceptable?

[Heavy Jack]

If the leafs were that bent out of shape about a last place team putting an exclamation mark on a win with a slapper into the empty net then maybe they should have shown up more to not be in that situation. Do I understand why Reilly approached Grieg after the goal? Yea, sure, but something could have been said to the kid, maybe a shove or something to say hey show a little bit of sportsmanship… but a two hand cross check to the dude in the head?? Reilly is lucky Grieg’s arms took a bit of that brunt or this really could have got out of hand.

[Robbob]

Only reason leaf nation is upset is because they at the risk of losing one of their better players for a couple weeks. They can probably barely afford to bring up a replacement. If they go on a slide, things could get interesting if they are on the outside looking in after the dust settles.

Maybe this is the time for Conroy to get that first rounder.