[News] Morgan Rielly pulls a Dale Hunter (Suspended 5 games)

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

“Close” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. If you mean in that play a shoulder touched a shoulder a second after the puck goes in after a player shoots the puck into the net after the game ended is close to a cross check to the head 3 seconds after the puck goes in when the game is still happening I guess so.

You are splitting hairs. The game is still happening is 4 seconds. So if Kessler shoots it before the horn the Flames should not react?

Rielly's mistake was he didn't drop his stick first and that he should be suspended heavily (he'll get 2 games).

Can someone find the PGT for that Flames-Ducks game? That would be an interesting read today.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

You are splitting hairs. The game is still happening is 4 seconds. So if Kessler shoots it before the horn the Flames should not react?

Rielly's mistake was he didn't drop his stick first and that he should be suspended heavily (he'll get 2 games).

Can someone find the PGT for that Flames-Ducks game? That would be an interesting read today.

His mistake was blindsiding Greig and cross checking him in the face. You showed a video where Wideman squared up with Kesler and rag dolled him. They are two completely different plays.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Is anyone actually complaining about the scrum that happened after Greig scored his goal? I may have missed something but the complaint is about the cross check. So showing a scrum and saying it is the same as a cross check seems like two completely different situation.

Yes they are. Read from the beginning.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

This is close to what happened yesterday

https://twitter.com/user/status/1756543127945720070

Close as in the triggers are close / very comparable.

The important difference is the Flames reaction, engaged Kesler, but was not dangerous. Flames gave him a very light rub into the boards (basically didn’t touch him) which provoked the fight. If you’re an old school hockey advocate (not that we can’t debate whether that should be a thing) how the Flames handled it was legit. Take exception and engage, the ducks were more than willing to oblige also.

The Flames didn’t, cross check to the face, devastating elbow to the head to take exception. That is the biggest issue here and what is different. The Leafs have the right to react, sure, they don’t have the right to administer a potentially devastating head shot to an unsuspecting player because their pride got hurt. That shouldn’t even be a debate.

[UKflames]

Sorry but there is no excuse for what Reilly did, bull##### code or no code. If you don't like it, maybe don't lose to the lowly Sens. Maybe you should be more pi$$ed at your own performance first.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Is anyone actually complaining about the scrum that happened after Greig scored his goal? I may have missed something but the complaint is about the cross check. So showing a scrum and saying it is the same as a cross check seems like two completely different situation.

What are you talking about? Someone posted a similar situation and the result. Yes the outcomes were different. What’s your point? No one said it was the same as the cross check.

And yes, lots of people are unhappy that there was any response.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yes they are. Read from the beginning.

Nobody has complained about the scrum. I would suggest you read from the beginning.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

What are you talking about? Someone posted a similar situation and the result. Yes the outcomes were different. What’s your point? No one said it was the same as the cross check.

And yes, lots of people are unhappy that there was any response.

Someone posted something that is totally different and has almost no similarities. Cleveland Steam Whistle points this out very well a couple posts up but his analysis is pretty much bang on. Outside of someone shooting a puck the two situations have almost no similarities.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Rielly's mistake was he didn't drop his stick first and that he should be suspended heavily (he'll get 2 games).

No way he gets 2 games. He'll get 5 to 8 games.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by chummer

No way he gets 2 games. He'll get 5 to 8 games.

We'll see. There's been no announcement of an in-person hearing yet.

[sureLoss]

Possibility of 5+ games with in person hearing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1756744870243295646

[chummer]

Originally Posted by girlysports

we'll see. There's been no announcement of an in-person hearing yet.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1756744870243295646

[devo22]

didn't expect an in-person hearing. Good.

[dino7c]

The NHL is so wildly inconsistent on suspensions whatever they decide doesn't really settle the debate either way

[Erick Estrada]

I feel like Girly and Cecil are viewing this from an alternate universe or something. Simply bizarre takes. Even the NHL has decided it’s worthy of 5+ and you know they didn’t want to do that to the Leafs. The League needs the Leafs in the playoffs.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

We'll see. There's been no announcement of an in-person hearing yet.

There has, oh beat me to it

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The NHL is so wildly inconsistent on suspensions whatever they decide doesn't really settle the debate either way

DoPS decisions rarely do. Fact of the matter is that these types of plays will generate a response from the opposition. Reilly overreacted and deserves a suspension.

I guess people can argue whether the opposition should care enough to respond at all but fans debating it won’t change the fact that players care and have always cared. I’m kinda glad the guy did it because that Toronto Ottawa rivalry was feeling pretty tame recently. This should add some hatred.

[Bingo]

Finding a video from 10 years ago that is sort of the same doesn't change the fact that it's now 2024 and these things aren't handled the same.

Rasmus Andersson would never been suspended for hitting Laine late in a game 10 years ago.

Now it's four games.

He gets 6-8 games in my mind.

[MissTeeks]

In person.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1756744870243295646

[D as in David]

[QUOTE=GirlySports;8983297]So there no line anyone can cross. Can do whatever they want.

Double post.