2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Cortez

The team is going to be much different with a Tanev trade. You can’t take a guy like that out of the dressing room and be better

Sure you can, it just takes a couple years. Plus people overrate how impactful all these guys are. Exhibit A = Lindholm trade. Everybody thinks he’s “way better” than the guy coming in.

Is he really?

Exh B, all the new kids coming up from the farm generally outplaying their peer group in the NHL. Like, these NHL jobs shouldn’t just be given to people based on history exclusively.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Atodaso

Some buzz about Treliving working on a package for Tanev and Hanifin involving their 1st (obviously).

Have you perused the packages drummed up by Leaf fans on that particular situation?


1st, Abbruzie (SP?) , Timmons, some other bits and bobs for fully retained Hanifin and Tanev. The only thing of value they offer is the 1st.


IMO, it should take, 1st, Lijegren, Knies, Niemala, Minten.


Hanifin alone needs at least 3 of those pieces.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Why is that humourous Sec212?

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Why is that humourous Sec212?

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Atodaso

Some buzz about Treliving working on a package for Tanev and Hanifin involving their 1st (obviously).

If it's an extended Hanifin, with retention this year on both players, the return should start with a 1st & Knies and expand from there.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Just got this text.

"Noah wants paid 8~. Connie views him expendable. Connie believes in OK. Pat and Con are doing business now."

Well it was nice knowing you Noah.

[Atodaso]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Have you perused the packages drummed up by Leaf fans on that particular situation?





1st, Abbruzie (SP?) , Timmons, some other bits and bobs for fully retained Hanifin and Tanev. The only thing of value they offer is the 1st.





IMO, it should take, 1st, Lijegren, Knies, Niemala, Minten.





Hanifin alone needs at least 3 of those pieces.

I haven't, aside from Toronto fans within my hockey pool.

They mention Liljegren and Robertson but worry it might involve Knies, which I have my doubts about.

[Monahammer]

Markstrom gonna be traded.

[Enoch Root]

If Hanifin is looking for an 8 handle, I am further tilted to the trade side. Run with Kylington and Pachal. Might even be able to pick up another Dman for cheap at the deadline, to help with the playoff push.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Markstrom gonna be traded.

I don't think he will

[Heavy Jack]

With how good Markstrom, Tanev and Hanifin have been playing I could see Treliving getting sentimental for one or two of them.

Knies + 1st + Samsonov for ??? Throw Reaves in as a cap dump? F5 like crazy lol

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If Hanifin is looking for an 8 handle, I am further tilted to the trade side. Run with Kylington and Pachal. Might even be able to pick up another Dman for cheap at the deadline, to help with the playoff push.

Exactly.

If you’re going to go playoffs then maybe dish Hanifin for a 1st and then get a new d guy inbound and pay a 3rd or something. The relative upgrade in the pick >>> the relative (theoretical?) downgrade in Hanifin to some d guy. Kylington can handle increased minutes too.

The right answer is trade. Also, 8 years is an insanely long time. People don’t really appreciate the length of these deals very well.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

With how good Markstrom, Tanev and Hanifin have been playing I could see Treliving getting sentimental for one or two of them.

Knies + 1st + Samsonov for ??? Throw Reaves in as a cap dump? F5 like crazy lol

Conroy watched the Tre be blue balled for a decade.

[Cortez]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Sure you can, it just takes a couple years. Plus people overrate how impactful all these guys are. Exhibit A = Lindholm trade. Everybody thinks he’s “way better” than the guy coming in.

Is he really?

Exh B, all the new kids coming up from the farm generally outplaying their peer group in the NHL. Like, these NHL jobs shouldn’t just be given to people based on history exclusively.

Completely agree it’ll take a few years. I meant more in the sense of how the locker room is. I think it’s under-appreciated how big of a deal it is to successful teams.

[Ped]

Liljegren hasn't taken the next step that the Leafs hoped. Whether he will or not is still up in the air I think. And Robertson has some good stats but they seem hesitant to play him. Knies is good but suffers from Leafs overhype.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Ped

Liljegren hasn't taken the next step that the Leafs hoped. Whether he will or not is still up in the air I think. And Robertson has some good stats but they seem hesitant to play him. Knies is good but suffers from Leafs overhype.

Some guys just need to play top 6 minutes to be effective. There isn't a spot in Toronto for him to do that. He should of been left to cook in the AHL.

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Markstrom gonna be traded.

eventually, but it doesn't need to be this season. His value will be the same this summer, and many if not all of the teams that need a goalie now will still need one

[keenan87]

I was confused on the radio broadcast as they kept mentioning the kids getting goals in Zary and Rooney.

We all do realize that Rooney is 30 years old and probably one of the oldest players on the roster right now.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I was confused on the radio broadcast as they kept mentioning the kids getting goals in Zary and Rooney.

We all do realize that Rooney is 30 years old and probably one of the oldest players on the roster right now.

Similar comments earlier in the year about DeSimone and Hunt.

[Toonage]

Kids at heart.