[Rumour] TSN: Hanifin decision expected in coming days. D market waits on Tanev

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ya, what a terrible idea to spend money on prime players. That is how you become the Arizona Coyotes, selling off all your prime players. No thanks.

Which prime players in recent history did the Coyotes sell off? Ekman-Larsson? Are you in the "Coyotes should have kept Ekman-Larsson" camp?

Also pretty hilarious that the supposed example of this practice has recently signed overpriced UFAs like Dumba, Kerfoot, Zucker, Kuemper, Jaskin -- which are all examples of what not to do if you're a small market team. Not to mention the prime example, Ekman-Larsson, which the Coyotes extended for 8 years when he was a pending UFA and lived to regret it. Imagine what the Coyotes could have gotten for prime Ekman-LArsson.

If this is the best example of building a player development pipeline failing, well, then I think some here don't quite grasp the concept.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Well in the end you won't get what you want, the team is not tearing it down to the studs.With the long term deals like Kadri, Weegar, and Huberdeau it would be much worse than trying to retool on the fly which is the plan.

Retool on the fly is hockey OBC speak for rebuilding since they aren't allowed to say that word.

What I want is to trade Hanifin. I won't get that?

Huberdeau has negative value. Kadri too, though it's increased significantly since about 35 games ago. Keep the liabilities and liquidate the assets.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ya, what a terrible idea to spend money on prime players.

How does signing player in his prime right now help us? By the time we can even use him he'll be 30+, taking up cap space, and being terrible under pressure when we finally get to the playoffs again. If we were a winning team that could use him sure, but we aren't. We need the assets MUCH MUCH more.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Retool on the fly is hockey OBC speak for rebuilding since they aren't allowed to say that word.

What I want is to trade Hanifin. I won't get that?

Huberdeau has negative value. Kadri too, though it's increased significantly since about 35 games ago. Keep the liabilities and liquidate the assets.

Can either you or cannon point to a team that operates how you think is ideal?

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by Hackey

You think this was a master plan? That's insane.

Moving out legit NHL players for a few later picks and b level prospects isn't going to retool things quickly. It's a start but it's about 5% of what needs to happen.

I very clearly stated backup plan, not master plan.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Can either you or cannon point to a team that operates how you think is ideal?

Can you? We sell off valuable pieces, then re-sign someone who could be one. San Jose?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Can you? We sell off valuable pieces, then re-sign someone who could be one. San Jose?

Dallas and Carolina. Your turn

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Which prime players in recent history did the Coyotes sell off? Ekman-Larsson? Are you in the "Coyotes should have kept Ekman-Larsson" camp?.

Chychrun, Kuemper, Dvorak, Domi, Boedker.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Chychrun, Kuemper, Dvorak, Domi, Boedker.

Prime players in that group. Maybe 30 total all star games together.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Dallas and Carolina. Your turn

Columbus. They did so well to spend money on Werenski and lure Gaudreau over. They’ll have years of fun!

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Columbus. They did so well to spend money on Werenski and lure Gaudreau over. They’ll have years of fun!

lol so there isn’t one

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Bonded

lol so there isn’t one

Good thing Minnesota extended Suter and Parise too. They won’t regret it.

[butterfly]

Chicago needed Seth Jones to mentor their young players. Totally worth it too.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Good thing Minnesota extended Suter and Parise too. They won’t regret it.

lol so far the closest I have is that the coyotes are your ideal team.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Prime players in that group. Maybe 30 total all star games together.

That’s not your argument. Your argument is about players approaching the end of their RFA contracts.

If you are talking about trading all stars - Hanifin isn’t one.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Chicago needed Seth Jones to mentor their young players. Totally worth it too.

Lol, how's that working out?

Terrible contract.

[butterfly]

Speaking of Dallas, how dumb were they? They could have had Patrick Eaves re-signed and chose to flip him for a late 1st. Oettinger?

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by chummer

Lol, how's that working out?

Terrible contract.

Yeah, that’s the idea.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Redrum

How does signing player in his prime right now help us? By the time we can even use him he'll be 30+, taking up cap space, and being terrible under pressure when we finally get to the playoffs again. If we were a winning team that could use him sure, but we aren't. We need the assets MUCH MUCH more.

We just beat boston. Without breaking a sweat. On the road.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Speaking of Dallas, how dumb were they? They could have had Patrick Eaves re-signed and chose to flip him for a late 1st. Oettinger?

lol in what league is Patrick Eaves getting a 7 to 8 year contract.