2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Generally this is thought to be an above average depth, with strength at the top, though not awesome depth.
But above average overall.
Not a poor one.

But only time will tell how it will end up. In the past, drafts like 2003 and 2013 were labeled as stacked. Media and scouting services quite often label a few drafts after a draft labeled one of the best ever as not a good or not good at all.

2003 was a great draft, but maybe 3 of the top 10 players taken were game changers. Suter, Fleury and Staal. Lots of great players scattered 11-60 overall. Only really Pavelski was a star 3rd round on.

You can make a case that the 09 top 10 is just as good as 03 yet was labeled worse than the Stamkos draft and maybe labeled to be the worst draft from 03-09. But it ended up being a good draft.

2013 was supposed to be much better than 2014. You could make a case the 14 draft has better players drafted in the 1st round than 13 did.

2023 is being labeled as best draft since 03 and it could be. But quite often the hangover after a great draft and what the scouts are saying end up being wrong and overstated at least.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Pump the brakes here. This is not the 2023 draft coming up, this is a weak draft with half a dozen players that might be top six. The depth in this draft is quite poor comparatively so the idea of making out like bandits this draft should be tempered.

100% pump the breaks. Only incredibly negative hyperbole is acceptable around here, not positive and excited hyperbole.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

100% pump the breaks. Only incredibly negative hyperbole is acceptable around here, not positive and excited hyperbole.

I also said Conroy could be setting this team up for a dynasty. I didn't think I needed to state the odds of it playing out that way is very low.

His plan seems to be that he is trying to build a dynasty team. So many teams fail at this though, but he seems to have a plan.

[activeStick]

Haven't seen it posted yet, but Conroy also said that both Tanev and Hanifin will be in Boston with the Flames. Interpret that as you will...

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Haven't seen it posted yet, but Conroy also said that both Tanev and Hanifin will be in Boston with the Flames. Interpret that as you will...

To me that just means, we dont need to move them now, if you want them, pay up

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

To me that just means, we dont need to move them now, if you want them, pay up

Nope, that means they are both being traded to Boston!
Gotta read between the lines man!

[tony-soprano]

Boston putting together a homecoming package for Hanifin.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Pump the brakes here. This is not the 2023 draft coming up, this is a weak draft with half a dozen players that might be top six. The depth in this draft is quite poor comparatively so the idea of making out like bandits this draft should be tempered.

I think it’s just good business to spread out these first round picks.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

But only time will tell how it will end up. In the past, drafts like 2003 and 2013 were labeled as stacked. Media and scouting services quite often label a few drafts after a draft labeled one of the best ever as not a good or not good at all.

2003 was a great draft, but maybe 3 of the top 10 players taken were game changers. Suter, Fleury and Staal. Lots of great players scattered 11-60 overall. Only really Pavelski was a star 3rd round on.

You can make a case that the 09 top 10 is just as good as 03 yet was labeled worse than the Stamkos draft and maybe labeled to be the worst draft from 03-09. But it ended up being a good draft.

2013 was supposed to be much better than 2014. You could make a case the 14 draft has better players drafted in the 1st round than 13 did.

2023 is being labeled as best draft since 03 and it could be. But quite often the hangover after a great draft and what the scouts are saying end up being wrong and overstated at least.

All true, but the way Lanny described things, in terms of how it is perceived is not what I've read.

[dino7c]

If the Flames have 3+ firsts I bet they trade one...and for a young player I am all for it

Some of you are trashing the draft so bad, these things will be gold on draft day...especially to a team that also has cap

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If the Flames have 3+ firsts I bet they trade one...and for a young player I am all for it

Some of you are trashing the draft so bad, these things will be gold on draft day...especially to a team that also has cap

100%.

Maximizing players at or before the trade deadline.

Maximizing picks at the draft (I'll generally lean towards "make the picks" though).

That's what's in front of Conroy right now.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Generally this is thought to be an above average depth, with strength at the top, though not awesome depth.
But above average overall.
Not a poor one.

Only one who has said anything close to that is Pronman, and we know how accurate he is. It’s a defenseman heavy draft and not a ton of top end talent.

Originally Posted by dino7c

Sorry kreskin

6 players that might be top six lol. Come on now

That’s what the early draft previews have said. I don’t see the hype cycle changing that.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Only one who has said anything close to that is Pronman, and we know how accurate he is. It’s a defenseman heavy draft and not a ton of top end talent.



That’s what the early draft previews have said. I don’t see the hype cycle changing that.

And those are always right, where was the current NHL scoring leader ranked in his draft?

[devo22]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If the Flames have 3+ firsts I bet they trade one...and for a young player I am all for it

Some of you are trashing the draft so bad, these things will be gold on draft day...especially to a team that also has cap

I'm all for it.

Can't help but think that David Jiricek might be available at some point, given that his relationship with the BJs seems to be a bit rocky. That's the kind of talent I'd be targeting with extra picks

[dammage79]

Ideally I'd like to see the Flames land at the 6th pick. Don't think they can get much lower than that.

Then maybe at 6 they get some lotto luck and jump to 3rd. Then it's Cayden Lindstrom time.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Ideally I'd like to see the Flames land at the 6th pick. Don't think they can get much lower than that.

Then maybe at 6 they get some lotto luck and jump to 3rd. Then it's Cayden Lindstrom time.

Don't think they have a lottery for the top 3 anymore...isn't it just a lottery for the top 2 now?

[CFO]

Tanev to the Oilers makes a ton of sense. From a need perspective.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

something else Conroy said

"We have a plan"

Also said they may be interested if they could find a centre that's 24 or younger.

and 6'4+" and right shot

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by dino7c

And those are always right, where was the current NHL scoring leader ranked in his draft?

Plus, the current 3rd place points leader was picked at #25.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Don't think they have a lottery for the top 3 anymore...isn't it just a lottery for the top 2 now?

You can move up 3 positions in the lottery outside of winning 1 OA