2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[devo22]

I like Noah, but I also hope he forces the Flames' hands here.

Not sure Florida is a good fit. No 1st or 2nd this year, no 1st in 25 either. Pretty bare prospect base too ... I do like Sawchyn, but there's few high-end options there. Lundell's numbers have regressed, so no idea if they'd be more open to including him at this point. But you'd hope there are other teams involved that have more enticing picks and prospects to offer, especially if it's a sign-and-trade scenario with an 8 year extension in place.

as for Frost, I'd take him in a heartbeat. Could do with a change of scenery and the Flames need centers, so there's a natural fit there. Opening a spot for Wolf by flipping Vladar would be gravy, even if you have to include a mid-pick to make it happen.

[dino7c]

I'm good either way on Hanifin...if the Flames trade him they will be searching for another Hanifin for years though. I know some of you think you suck for 3 years and then are awesome but more often then not you suck for 10 years and are average.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I think that's a ridiculously high ask for a back-up goalie. I suppose a desperate team could pay it, but I don't think it will be a team like Philadelphia.

Well, Philly is a playoff-bound team who just had their starter ripped out from under them. So I would imagine they are as goalie-desperate as anyone. Not saying that means they would have interest in Vladar, but they certainly have goalie-interest

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Well, Philly is a playoff-bound team who just had their starter ripped out from under them. So I would imagine they are as goalie-desperate as anyone. Not saying that means they would have interest in Vladar, but they certainly have goalie-interest

The Flyers are performing above expectation. I am not to sure how eagre they are to move assets out to try and supplement this run.

A Vladar + 2nd is something I could see, but then the focus for the Flyers is the 2nd.


If I am the Flames I don't think I want Frost. I think you want to sit back and find cheaper players to do reclamation projects with. Horde your picks and rebuild the right way. (Lol Canadian franchises don't)

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

The Flyers are performing above expectation. I am not to sure how eagre they are to move assets out to try and supplement this run.

A Vladar + 2nd is something I could see, but then the focus for the Flyers is the 2nd.


If I am the Flames I don't think I want Frost. I think you want to sit back and find cheaper players to do reclamation projects with. Horde your picks and rebuild the right way. (Lol Canadian franchises don't)

I wasn't commenting on the trade proposal. Just on the Philly aspect with respect to goalies.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Well, Philly is a playoff-bound team who just had their starter ripped out from under them. So I would imagine they are as goalie-desperate as anyone. Not saying that means they would have interest in Vladar, but they certainly have goalie-interest

I think Briere already said he's not selling the future for a playoff run this year, sticking to the long term plan

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

I think Briere already said he's not selling the future for a playoff run this year, sticking to the long term plan

they are gonna need a goalie for the future too

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I think that's a ridiculously high ask for a back-up goalie. I suppose a desperate team could pay it, but I don't think it will be a team like Philadelphia.

I don't disagree.

But the Flames got a 2nd round pick for Reto Berra once so who the hell knows.

[Redrum]

If Vladar is traded by himself, I can't see more than a 4th or 5th. But Berra got a 2nd, so you never know if a GM out there still likes him.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Friedman on the Marek Show today (nothing new):

- thinks that the Canucks asked the Flames about what it would cost to include Tanev in the Lindholm deal, but the Canucks couldn't pay the price. Thinks it was another 1st. Can see the Canucks revisiting Tanev in the summer.

- believes that Ottawa took a run at Tanev and he doesn't see it happening this season now. Can see Ottawa taking a run at him if he is a free agent this summer.

- believes the Leafs are still very interested in acquiring Tanev by the deadline.

- believes the Flames want to keep Hanifin and have made this clear to him, but Hanifin needs to make a decision. Many teams are interested.

- no doubt that teams have asked about Markstrom. However, these teams will need to make the Flames want the trade to happen for them to even approach Markstrom.

- Canucks won't have another chance to circle back for Tanev. He won't be available in the summer for them to sign. Guaranteed if TO or another team picks him up. Tanev market value is great right now. Get it done!

- Hanifin for more higher grade picks - yes please!

- Markstrom - for high end picks plus salary retention - sure and get that done ASAP. No use in keeping Markstrom for a rebuild process, especially with Wolf looking to see more action with Vladar. This pairing makes more sense than with Markstrom/Wolf pairing.

[Blaster86]

If you find the right team in the right place, you can get pretty much anything for anything.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

If you find the right team in the right place, you can get pretty much anything for anything.

Exactly this.

It is not a liquid, nor an efficient market. There is one seller, and few potential buyers. And the commodity being traded has different value to different buyers - even if you could agree on how good the player is, which you can't because everyone has a different opinion.

Timing is also critical (and difficult to predict/manage)

You shoot for the moon every time, because you never really know what the other side thinks.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I don't disagree.

But the Flames got a 2nd round pick for Reto Berra once so who the hell knows.

He made two absolutely bananas saves that season… I think that’s all it was based on!

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

If you find the right team in the right place, you can get pretty much anything for anything.

See Tanner Jeannot

Still crazy to think Tanner Jeannot probably received the best trade return of the past two seasons (yes i'd still take that return over what Lindholm got)

[OILFAN #81]

Nick Kypreos mentioned that Pittsburgh offered Jake Guentzel a 6 year contract with an AAV of 8.5 M but it was rejected.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

See Tanner Jeannot

Still crazy to think Tanner Jeannot probably received the best trade return of the past two seasons (yes i'd still take that return over what Lindholm got)

And I don't blame you. That deal was insane.

[bluejays]

I don’t know what Tampa’s pick situation is but I wouldn’t mind dealing with them. This year they’re pretenders. They also have guys who are aging and it’s uncertain if they may be falling into a bit of an older team now. Tanev for a right to swap for this or next years first could be nice.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I don’t know what Tampa’s pick situation is but I wouldn’t mind dealing with them. This year they’re pretenders. They also have guys who are aging and it’s uncertain if they may be falling into a bit of an older team now. Tanev for a right to swap for this or next years first could be nice.

Tampa doesn't have a 1st until 2026 and even then they might have to give that up if their 2025 1st is top 10 as lottery protection.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

He made two absolutely bananas saves that season… I think that’s all it was based on!

It's was an under the table compensation for signing O'Reilly to an offer sheet, ending his hold out.

[Toonage]

LeBrun at The Athletic:

https://theathletic.com/5245091/2024...trade-fallout/ (paywall)

Now the Flames have to make decisions on fellow pending UFAs Chris Tanev and Noah Hanifin. My understanding is the Flames still want to re-sign Hanifin and are trying to do so, but at some point, they will have to fish or cut bait there ahead of March 8. And while it’s more likely Tanev gets traded, I think the Flames cherish the veteran blueliner so much for everything he brings on and off the ice that you shouldn’t close the door on Calgary having at least one more contract conversation with him, too.

But I think Tanev gets dealt in the end. (Vancouver, by the way, tried hard to have him included in the Lindholm trade, but the price point was too high). There are just too many teams with interest. The general price tag right now from Calgary is a second-round pick plus another asset, according to league sources. If a team would be willing to jump up to a first-round pick, they’d probably get Tanev now.

It just so happens the Maple Leafs, who very much covet Tanev, don’t have a second-round pick. In fact, the Leafs don’t have a second-round pick for the next three drafts. But they do have a first-round pick in this June’s draft. There’s no doubt in my mind that if Leafs GM Brad Treliving wants to be reunited with Tanev, he’s going to have to pay that price. And maybe he just won’t. But there are both playoff and non-playoff teams that have shown interest in Tanev. There isn’t a single player on the Flames roster who’s generated more interest since the start of the season, and that includes Lindholm.

The other thing to consider with Calgary is goalie Jacob Markstrom, who turned 34 on Wednesday. He’s got a full no-move clause and completely controls his future. But I do wonder now that his best friend on the team has been traded to Vancouver (which is a bit ironic given that it was Lindholm who helped convince Markstrom to leave the Canucks, spurn the Oilers and sign with the Flames in October 2020), how does he feel about things?

Markstrom’s got two more years on his contract after this season at a $6 million AAV. I believe the Flames have had a few calls on him but nothing serious. This feels like a June trade situation if there’s a trade at all. But again it’s worth asking, given the control the goalie has with his no-move, how does the Lindholm trade affect his mood moving forward?

If the Devils think they have any chance of still making the playoffs (I think they do), they’ve got the cap room with Dougie Hamilton and his $9 million cap hit on long-term injured reserve. Do they take a swing at a Markstrom-Tanev package?

The goalie situation is pressing in New Jersey. Odds are the Devils make a goalie trade ahead of any D trade, from what I can gather. Sources around the league say they do indeed keep calling around on goalies. And I don’t think they’re looking at rentals, either. That’s why Markstrom could be among those on their radar.

Lots to play out still between now and March 8. The Flames got it going for real Wednesday night and they’re far from done.