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				PLD's contract being buyoutable makes it infinitely less bad. Structuring Huberdeau's contract so it can't be bought out was totally uncalled for. 
			
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They both can be bought out.  It's just that the early years of Huberdeaus's make his impractical for the those years.  PLD's buyout isn't exactly attractive either.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 05:29 PM
			
			
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				They both can be bought out.  It's just that the early years of Huberdeaus's make his impractical for the those years.  PLD's buyout isn't exactly attractive either. 
			
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Of course they can be bought out...but Huberdeau's buyouts don't save anything substantial until the last year, when you save $4.7:
 https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-c...than-huberdeau
You could buyout PLD this off season and save  at least $4,699,048 every year:
 https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-c...rre-luc-dubois
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 05:44 PM
			
			
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			01-25-2024, 06:47 PM
			
			
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			Dubois was another flavour of the month Treliving tried to go all in on.  Thankfully he wasn't successful.  Some talent but lacking much in the head, or the work ethic. 
 
 
In other news, Staios in Ottawa apparently wants a 200 foot player.  Would be a pretty good trading partner to get Lindholm.  Don't know if it's been posted yet.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 06:48 PM
			
			
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			I don't remember Tre really trying to get Dubois. Stone/Eichel, but I do not remember Dubois.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 06:51 PM
			
			
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				I don't remember Tre really trying to get Dubois. Stone/Eichel, but I do not remember Dubois. 
			
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I believe (and could be off the mark), that the Flames were willing to do Gaudreau or Tkachuk (before they broke out).  Again, correct me if I'm wrong on this one.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 06:55 PM
			
			
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			Dubois was more fan fantasy I think. I don't really recall any rumors of the Flames kicking tires on Dubois.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-25-2024, 07:55 PM
			
			
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				They both can be bought out.  It's just that the early years of Huberdeaus's make his impractical for the those years.  PLD's buyout isn't exactly attractive either. 
			
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If you buyout Hubby, you save about $6M.  Simply no reason to do so.
 
If you buyout Dubois, you save about $31M.  It is exceptionally attractive.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 08:29 PM
			
			
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				If you buyout Hubby, you save about $6M.  Simply no reason to do so. 
 
If you buyout Dubois, you save about $31M.  It is exceptionally attractive. 
			
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Yup. It still isn’t ideal but the 1/3rd buyout makes it an option if he really isn’t working out.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 08:57 PM
			
			
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				If you buyout Hubby, you save about $6M.  Simply no reason to do so. 
 
If you buyout Dubois, you save about $31M.  It is exceptionally attractive. 
			
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You save money but you pay him until the end of next decade.  And you suffer with him while he’s on your team.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 09:30 PM
			
			
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			01-25-2024, 09:33 PM
			
			
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			Did Conroy miss his opportunity to trade Lindy for a decent pick or player? I feel like he's playing it pretty close to the deadline and we might lose a few players for nothing.  
 
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			01-25-2024, 09:34 PM
			
			
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				You save money but you pay him until the end of next decade.  And you suffer with him while he’s on your team. 
			
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Eh. Buy him out right away would be the imaginary plan. I’d easily trade Huberdeau for a 4 million dollar cap dump and that isn’t a real option. No way it would happen though
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 09:35 PM
			
			
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				Did Conroy miss his opportunity to trade Lindy for a decent pick or player? I feel like he's playing it pretty close to the deadline and we might lose a few players for nothing.  
 
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lol there’s more than a full month
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 09:35 PM
			
			
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				lol there’s more than a full month 
			
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Ya, but it's a full month for lindy to look even worse. 
 
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			01-25-2024, 09:43 PM
			
			
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				Ya, but it's a full month for lindy to look even worse.  
 
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Eh. I don’t think he’ll get much less than the typical deadline return. 1st and b prospect
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 09:45 PM
			
			
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				My buddy was sitting beside an executive from the Blue Jackets this morning on a flight to E=NG. Had some conversations and got some insights. These were things that stood out to my buddy during their conversation: 
 
- Said they were interested in Lindholm earlier in the season, didn't give much info on right now 
- Was also interested in Monahan but felt it it was too risky with his injuries 
- Says there are concerns in the organization about Laine being injury prone and every time he takes a hit they all hold their breaths 
- Scouts aren't too big on Hanifin because of his physicality and unwillingness to go into the corners 
- Said Conroy is really trying to make deals but no GMs are wanting to make trades at the moment 
 
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			01-25-2024, 09:47 PM
			
			
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				Eh. Buy him out right away would be the imaginary plan. I’d easily trade Huberdeau for a 4 million dollar cap dump and that isn’t a real option. No way it would happen though 
			
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It’s a $2M cap difference.  And between Huberdeau’s attitude and his improved production, I’m taking that hit.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2024, 09:49 PM
			
			
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				It’s a $2M cap difference.  And between Huberdeau’s attitude and his improved production, I’m taking that hit. 
			
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You don’t keep either. That’d be the point
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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