[Rumour] Jacob Markstrom...rumour? <Kevin Weekes does dumb eyeball thing on X>

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Bingo

It was just my opinion that it wasn't a good look.

Seems like I wasn't alone.

Glad you're going to skip any chance for self reflection though!

There's a limited supply of this in the world so this leaves more for the rest of us!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Legally, I don’t think you’re allowed to give out tips about how to be taken seriously in the same post you try to make yourself out to be a maverick standing up against the “wrath” of “groupthink” on a hockey message board because someone called you out for being a dink to someone else.

Legally?



Ah crap...I communicated something via gif! But I also drive a BMW! Am I a dickhead or not? I'm so confused by this thread.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Management wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't communicate with their players on things like would they waive and where would you waive.

Trick is to get it writing (Iginla lol).

I'm sure they know full well where he'd go and where he won't. And they know full well what moving him means for the rest of this season.

I think this is probably pretty accurate, Conroy was a player, he probably chats with the guys all the time and they all know what's going on and what the Flames are trying to do. I'm pretty sure they're pretty open and want to help the Flames anyway they can. Him and Markstrom have probably had a few beers . Conroy being the GM, I get a feeling he is probably well connected to the players. The players not signing right away was probably an open discussion. This is probably a pretty tight group the dad's coming in the locker rooms singing with the players it doesn't get any tighter than that.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Legally?



Ah crap...I communicated something via gif! But I also drive a BMW! Am I a dickhead or not? I'm so confused by this thread.

Only the real ones post gifs of their BMWs. While driving, on their cell phone changing 3 lanes trying make a missed lane exit with no blinker fluid left in the reservoir.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Are ‘high bar’ and ‘vastly overpay’ the same thing? I don’t think so.

High bar, or very high bar to be specific. implies to me that a deal could be made but the Flames are not necessarily looking to do so. In other words, the Flames are not approaching other teams. They will consider offers if the price is attractive enough and they’re comfortable Markstrom would agree to go. I also wouldn’t dismiss the thought that having Friedman publicize this at this point, ~8 weeks from TDL, could be a smoke signal to other GM’s to step up if interested.

Vastly overpay to me implies there is no deal to be made as no other GM would, or should, vastly overpay for any asset. Vastly overpay would be like going to McDonalds and saying ‘Hello, I would like a Big Mac, how much is that?’ ‘Well, sir, for you, a Big Mac will be $78.00’. Basically Conroy would be saying to other GM’s, ‘don’t bother, and GFY’, which, I think, is absolutely the wrong position to take for the Flames.

If there is legitimately to the Flames wanting to retool/rebuild or simply get younger, I would be a bit surprised if a Markstrom trade isnt being taken a little more seriously. The time to make room for Wolf, full time, should probably happen before the deadline passes and should certainly happen before the start of next year, however that looks. Trading Markstrom should most definitely be on the table.

Vastly overpay, or massive overpay, is quickly becoming the new ‘immediately fired’ parlance for strong opinions. These reactionary proclamations people like to make are a little over the top. Not intended to pick on this post alone because a fair share of posters talk in this way but whenever I see this type of stuff it kinda works in the opposite direction it is intended to.

No, I meant exactly what I said. It would take a vastly massive overpayment for them to consider approaching him about waiving.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

I think this is probably pretty accurate, Conroy was a player, he probably chats with the guys all the time and they all know what's going on and what the Flames are trying to do. I'm pretty sure they're pretty open and want to help the Flames anyway they can. Him and Markstrom have probably had a few beers . Conroy being the GM, I get a feeling he is probably well connected to the players. The players not signing right away was probably an open discussion. This is probably a pretty tight group the dad's coming in the locker rooms singing with the players it doesn't get any tighter than that.

Think that’s probably the best way to handle it. Be as honest with the players as you can be so no matter what happens you can look yourself in the mirror.

Tough spot for bubble team managers though. Probably easier if you are a contender or a tire fire like San Jose.

[bluejays]

The Leafs once again tied into the final minutes of the game. I do wonder if the 1sts Treliving has are burning a hole in his pocket and if he'll cave. Imagine if he were to give up 2 1sts for Markstrom and Tanev?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by bluejays

The Leafs once again tied into the final minutes of the game. I do wonder if the 1sts Treliving has are burning a hole in his pocket and if he'll cave. Imagine if he were to give up 2 1sts for Markstrom and Tanev?

and they blew it with sub-2 minutes left....

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by bluejays

The Leafs once again tied into the final minutes of the game. I do wonder if the 1sts Treliving has are burning a hole in his pocket and if he'll cave. Imagine if he were to give up 2 1sts for Markstrom and Tanev?

He loves trading second rounders. Too bad someone already traded all their seconds for the next three years.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by bluejays

The Leafs once again tied into the final minutes of the game. I do wonder if the 1sts Treliving has are burning a hole in his pocket and if he'll cave. Imagine if he were to give up 2 1sts for Markstrom and Tanev?

That isn’t enough it’s the retention and bad contracts coming back

[dino7c]

Leafs are 2 points up on 9th place
3 up on the 10 place Devil's

Tre must be sweating

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by bluejays

The Leafs once again tied into the final minutes of the game. I do wonder if the 1sts Treliving has are burning a hole in his pocket and if he'll cave. Imagine if he were to give up 2 1sts for Markstrom and Tanev?

Ha, it will cost more than that

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Leafs are 2 points up on 9th place
3 up on the 10 place Devil's

Tre must be sweating

Treliving nearing a 'bubble spot'?

...he's 100% trading his 3rd and or 4th round picks for some #6 and #7 defencemen. It's an automatic.

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

That isn’t enough it’s the retention and bad contracts coming back

Yeah, with Marky you have to look at 50% retention ($6M over the next two seasons + what's left of this year) being worth a 1st round pick, and then you have to sort out what a top-5 goalie this season is worth. If it were to actually happen, it'd probably (undoubtedly?) be the biggest return we'll get in any of our (looming?) trades.

[dino7c]

even the Pens and Caps are only 4 back

they better start winning some games

12th place! Brad would need a police escort out of town...funny thing is those 10 loser points are what is keeping them afloat (sound familiar?)

edit 8 loser points...still

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Ha, it will cost more than that

Maybe so. I love if Conroy is shooting for the moon but it's a fine line. Is Markstrom part of the team's future by the time they're ready to retool/rebuild (ignoring the NMC)? I think the answer is no. So ultimately I hope they can sell high on whatever he's showing this year, especially if there's a market for him. It seems there are a ton of views on what his value could be. The risk is if he falters again they're left with a tough contract for a couple years.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No, I meant exactly what I said. It would take a vastly massive overpayment for them to consider approaching him about waiving.

Fair enough. I’d take that then to mean they aren’t trading him. Which I’m fine with.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by dino7c

even the Pens and Caps are only 4 back

they better start winning some games

12th place! Brad would need a police escort out of town...funny thing is those 10 loser points are what is keeping them afloat (sound familiar?)

Crazy with 4 guys getting paid more than $10 million

[Tkachukwagon]

Maybe nothing?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1746951980772409531

[getbak]

[Toonage]

Would be kind of funny if the potential trade that has generated the most talk of late wound up being the first and easiest to complete.