2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Hockey teams always need exactly that kind of defenseman.

Maybe not at $7.5 million though.

Instead of some good building blocks for rebuilding team?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by butterfly

He’s not better but at least he accepts reasonable contract lengths.

Oesterle accepts even more reasonable contract lengths.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Instead of some good building blocks for rebuilding team?

What are you building on? A foundation.

Hanifin is exactly the kind of player you need to build on. He eats minutes, and can mentor young players as he started in the NHL at 18 and is an expert on how to go from highly touted prospect to a long NHL career. I think he would add a lot to the project.

[Mr.Coffee]

Time for the Flames to do things differently. Move Hanifin.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

What are you building on? A foundation.

Hanifin is exactly the kind of player you need to build on. He eats minutes, and can mentor young players as he started in the NHL at 18 and is an expert on how to go from highly touted prospect to a long NHL career. I think he would add a lot to the project.

No you can’t do that.

You either need to be icing exciting first or second round draft picks, or they have to be journeymen AHLers. Nothing in between.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

No you can’t do that.

You either need to be icing exciting first or second round draft picks, or they have to be journeymen AHLers. Nothing in between.

Good thing that Hanifin was a first round pick then...

[Enoch Root]

a top 5 pick

[PepsiFree]

Yeah, but he’s not exciting anymore.

[traptor]

Yeah things have been going great lately.
I'm sure moving lindholm and tanev will be enough of a shakeup. We'll be a contender in no time.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Fourteen FTW

Sportsnet says Zegras is available. Zary and Zegras with Kadri in the middle could be exciting.

Make it the top line at some point and call it ZZ Top!

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

What are you building on? A foundation.

Hanifin is exactly the kind of player you need to build on. He eats minutes, and can mentor young players as he started in the NHL at 18 and is an expert on how to go from highly touted prospect to a long NHL career. I think he would add a lot to the project.

Is
Kadri
Huberdeau
Backlund
Coleman
Mangiapane
Weegar
Andersson
Markstrom

Not enough of a foundation?

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by traptor

Is
Kadri
Huberdeau
Backlund
Coleman
Mangiapane
Weegar
Andersson
Markstrom

Not enough of a foundation?

If the point of the rebuild is to make the Flames a contender, then some of those guys will be senior citizens or gone by the time this project pays off. We are talking 3-5 years at the earliest and 5-8 more realistically.

[PepsiFree]

Expert builders know: never make the foundation too good.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

If the point of the rebuild is to make the Flames a contender, then some of those guys will be senior citizens or gone by the time this project pays off. We are talking 3-5 years at the earliest and 5-8 more realistically.

What are we rebuilding and where are we getting these top young players that are competing in 3-5 years if we're keeping guys like Hanifin?

Letting go of 2 aging UFAs isn't a rebuild. I wouldnt even consider it a retool.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Expert builders know: never make the foundation too good.

Use all the materials building the foundation and you won't have anything left for the house.

All you'll get is a tent city.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by traptor

What are we rebuilding and where are we getting these top young players that are competing in 3-5 years if we're keeping guys like Hanifin?

Letting go of 2 aging UFAs isn't a rebuild. I wouldn't even consider it a retool.

If you trade all of our UFA and get three 1st rounders they will likely be in the 25-30 range. We will be lucky if any of them net you a single player like Hanifin.

And as for the other assets we get, maybe if we are lucky we get another Sharangovich.

The elite talent is going to come from drafting in the top ten for 3-5 years and Flames have got that covered.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by traptor

Use all the materials building the foundation and you won't have anything left for the house.

All you'll get is a tent city.

You don’t build a foundation for a tent, silly man.

[SuperMatt18]

Wouldn't anticipate a Flames trade this week, can't trade somebody when their dad is here for the dads trip.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

If you trade all of our UFA and get three 1st rounders they will likely be in the 25-30 range. We will be lucky if any of them net you a single player like Hanifin.

And as for the other assets we get, maybe if we are lucky we get another Sharangovich.

The elite talent is going to come from drafting in the top ten for 3-5 years and Flames have got that covered.

If we could gurantee a couple top 10 picks over the next few seasons I would feel alot better about signing Hanifin.
Unfortunately, I think signing him helps keep us away from top 10 picks.

I think hanifin and lindholm get you around a 1st+2nd+3rd worth of value each. Tanev is probably around a 2nd+4th worth of value.
That's just pick value, could be prospects coming back instead like a lohrei, bourque or lambert for example.
We lose alot of value not trading him.

Drafting is all playing the odds. Higher picks have better odds. So does having more picks.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

What are you building on? A foundation.

Hanifin is exactly the kind of player you need to build on. He eats minutes, and can mentor young players as he started in the NHL at 18 and is an expert on how to go from highly touted prospect to a long NHL career. I think he would add a lot to the project.

They need picks and prospects for the next phase. I would trade Hanifin for a good package.

I hate to say it but over the year , I do not remember Hanifin stepped up his game when the games became important. He was dreadful when they lost to the Oilers and Avavelances

Like I said he is ok , but he is no foundation piece