01-09-2024, 06:55 PM
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#16181
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Wasn't it Francis who was confidently saying in the first place that Hanifin wanted out to play in the States? I'm pretty sure it was because I remember posting I had heard no such thing, quite the opposite in fact. I have always got the impression that Hanifin is ok with staying but is just as open to being dealt to a contender as long as he gets the contract he wants.
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He flip flopped on Gaudreau as well. People just remember him being vocal about Gaudreau leaving long before anyone else, that's why he gets the benefit of the doubt. Personally, I don't trust Francis as a source.
In contrast, Loubardias always had a great hand on the pulse of the organization. You could often tell which prospects the Flames were high on. He was really praising Coronato before his draft. He also was pretty adamant about Valimaki being surpassed by MacKey in the AHL in Sutter's first full year, and so on.
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01-09-2024, 06:58 PM
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#16182
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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If they are signing Hanifin, they are hoping he is still growing
Because right now he is very bland, not great, not bad. He is just there filling space
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01-09-2024, 07:02 PM
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#16183
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Franchise Player
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Over 500 games in the NHL already. He is what he is.
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01-09-2024, 07:03 PM
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#16184
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
If they are signing Hanifin, they are hoping he is still growing
Because right now he is very bland, not great, not bad. He is just there filling space
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TBH I think flashy dmen that either run around and hit or put up a ton of points can be overrated and steady dmen that can play big minutes and drive play without putting up huge point numbers can be underrated, especially in this market.
People focus on the mistakes and ignore the general steady play 95% of the time.
Call it the Jay Bouwmeester (or to a lesser extent TJ Brodie) effect.
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01-09-2024, 07:05 PM
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#16185
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traptor
If we re-sign hanifin to 8 years and only trade the other two UFAs, we have another 5 years (atleast) mediocrity coming.
Doubling down on an aging group that hasn't proven anything.
Kadri
Huberdeau
Weegar
Hanifin
Backlund
Coleman
Markstrom
Andersson (probably re-signed)
That's our core for the next 5 years.
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The chances of all those players still playing with the Flames in 5 years is zero.
No sense getting worked up about it, this team will look a lot different in the next year or two. Lots of youth coming. Going to be fun.
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01-09-2024, 07:10 PM
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#16186
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
TBH I think flashy dmen that either run around and hit or put up a ton of points can be overrated and steady dmen that can play big minutes and drive play without putting up huge point numbers can be underrated, especially in this market.
People focus on the mistakes and ignore the general steady play 95% of the time.
Call it the Jay Bouwmeester (or to a lesser extent TJ Brodie) effect.
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It’s like the people who think Zadorov is better
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01-09-2024, 07:12 PM
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#16187
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
It’s like the people who think Zadorov is better
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He’s not better but at least he accepts reasonable contract lengths.
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01-09-2024, 07:16 PM
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#16188
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Participant 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
He’s not better but at least he accepts reasonable contract lengths.
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“Accepts” because he wouldn’t play otherwise.
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01-09-2024, 07:17 PM
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#16189
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
He’s not better but at least he accepts reasonable contract lengths.
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lol. If that man was holding out for 8 years he wouldn’t get a contract
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01-09-2024, 07:21 PM
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#16190
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
Imagine the zaniness on CP if Conroy re-signed Tanev to an 8-year deal, taking him to 42 years old. I think people would start hunting each other.
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8 x league min would be awesome though.
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01-09-2024, 07:43 PM
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#16191
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Sportsnet says Zegras is available. Zary and Zegras with Kadri in the middle could be exciting.
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01-09-2024, 07:47 PM
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#16192
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fourteen FTW
Sportsnet says Zegras is available. Zary and Zegras with Kadri in the middle could be exciting.
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Can’t imagine what they could offer them that would make sense.
It would need to be some young talent or draft picks.
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01-09-2024, 07:50 PM
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#16194
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fourteen FTW
Sportsnet says Zegras is available. Zary and Zegras with Kadri in the middle could be exciting.
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Anyone think they would be interested in hanifin?
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01-09-2024, 07:53 PM
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#16195
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
TBH I think flashy dmen that either run around and hit or put up a ton of points can be overrated and steady dmen that can play big minutes and drive play without putting up huge point numbers can be underrated, especially in this market.
People focus on the mistakes and ignore the general steady play 95% of the time.
Call it the Jay Bouwmeester (or to a lesser extent TJ Brodie) effect.
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Yeah he is certainly a quality dman. Question is does the Flames need such a dman while rebuilding.
And yeah I know they are not rebuilding
Not by choice that is
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01-09-2024, 07:55 PM
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#16196
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: The real "Cowtown"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
Imagine the zaniness on CP if Conroy re-signed Tanev to an 8-year deal, taking him to 42 years old. I think people would start hunting each other.
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I'm already hunting you for suggesting the possibility. Watch your back Muta.
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01-09-2024, 07:57 PM
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#16197
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Yeah he is certainly a quality dman. Question is does the Flames need such a dman while rebuilding.
And yeah I know they are not rebuilding
Not by choice that is
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Hockey teams always need exactly that kind of defenseman.
Maybe not at $7.5 million though.
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01-09-2024, 08:11 PM
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#16198
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fourteen FTW
Sportsnet says Zegras is available. Zary and Zegras with Kadri in the middle could be exciting.
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The Ducks would have to be stupid to trade Zegras imo. He has oodles of skill and creativity. He is also a marketing cash cow. Unless he wants out you hold onto that guy.
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01-09-2024, 08:20 PM
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#16199
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Isn't his contract set up like how Tkachuk's was as well? Probably a future headache for some team.
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01-09-2024, 08:21 PM
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#16200
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Isn't his contract set up like how Tkachuk's was as well? Probably a future headache for some team.
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Ya, if it was us trying to acquire him I would worry about the US player factor there.
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