2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I wonder if Ottawa would be after Coleman.

Staios mentioned that he isn't ready to give up on the young players, but that he's looking for hard working guys to show the young players the level of commitment required. That just scream Coleman to me. Coleman has a NTC and he's playing really well, but he seems like a great sell high candidate.

Not sure if Coleman would waive to go there and I am not sure what the definition of young guy is but Coleman for Pinto would be fantastic. As of right now Ottawa still would not be able to sign him. A trade like that only works if they move out Tarasenko for picks but a forward like Coleman is some of what Ottawa needs IMO.

[dammage79]

Like, how much more leeway do they need? The guys halfway out the door. You either spend assets to pick their game up or move them and go with the youth.


I think it's pretty evident over the span of the last four years that there's nothing left here but a dead horse.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

For Coleman? Not a chance. Not with the term he has left and where Ottawa is in the standings.

I only see Coleman willing to waive to Dallas anyway.

Don’t think the NMC is in effect until next year. If some comes knocking with a 1st rounder do you say no?

[getbak]

Capfriendly has Coleman with a full NTC this year and a 10 team trade list starting next season for the rest of the contract.

[Harry Lime]

Coleman has been the best player on the team and a great role model for younger guys. Why get rid of him?

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by getbak

Capfriendly has Coleman with a full NTC this year and a 10 team trade list starting next season for the rest of the contract.

No disrespect to Coleman as he’s been great this year, but when a player of his caliber has a full NTC (that turns into a limited one) you know this league is broken. Those types of contracts should be reserved for star players only.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Coleman has been the best player on the team and a great role model for younger guys. Why get rid of him?

Sell high before a regression. Gain some assets for the future. Help the team drop a few spots in the standing.

If a good return is out there for him I think you take it. I'm doubtful the offers would be woethwhile without retention though.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by traptor

The dream. Still have a 5% shot at celibrini right niw

My hope for Flames draft is Konsta Helenius at our pick and grab Jiricek on the slide with an acquired pick. Watched Helenius at WJC he is going to be good.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Don't the Flames want a guy on the roster who could show our young kids the level of commitment they need?

Rather have another consensus top-32 18 year old.

They got Weegar and Backlund and Kadri and Huberdeau to set an example.

[Toonage]

NM- starting an infiite loop lol

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

No disrespect to Coleman as he’s been great this year, but when a player of his caliber has a full NTC (that turns into a limited one) you know this league is broken. Those types of contracts should be reserved for star players only.

I could see the league pushing for something like that in the next CBA negotiations… something like each team only being allowed to have 3 NMC’s or putting greater limitations on them such as a maximum list of 5 teams on a no-trade list. The league would like it as it makes it easier to make trades. Players would obviously push back.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I suspect the rumours about possibly extending Hanifin are just to put some urgency into other teams to make offers, but if you had to pick one of the UFAs to re-sign, Hanifin wouldn't be the worst given his age. It would be better than losing him for nothing or a return that is inconsequential.

I agree with every word of this. And yet I look at that top 4 on D and wonder why the team isn’t better.

A lineup with that top 4, filled out with Calgary Wranglers, should have easily been enough to control that game today.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

You need three defense that can objectionably step into a top pairing roll, to not be a tire fire in this league. Keeping Andersson and Weegar, we only really need to have to see one guy step into that role (Kylington, maybe) or pick up a minute munching D-man in UFA to make a lineup work, next year.

I'm ready for a minor burn down, followed by fantastic surprises.

Think you just explained why they should be resigning Hanifin

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

No disrespect to Coleman as he’s been great this year, but when a player of his caliber has a full NTC (that turns into a limited one) you know this league is broken. Those types of contracts should be reserved for star players only.

Players only get NTC’s or NMC’s because the GM’s want to give them out. The league has enough guard rails to protect dumb GM’s.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Sell high before a regression. Gain some assets for the future. Help the team drop a few spots in the standing.

If a good return is out there for him I think you take it. I'm doubtful the offers would be woethwhile without retention though.

He will make 5.6% of the salary cap next year with his percentage dropping going forward. His salary really is not that much. I guess the question is whether a 40 point, defensive specialist who is great on the PK is worth something without retention. I suspect the answer is yes, he is basically making close to the league average and he is an above average player.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Coleman has been the best player on the team and a great role model for younger guys. Why get rid of him?

Because they don’t need that for another 3-4 yrs when they have prospects ready to compete

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

He will make 5.6% of the salary cap next year with his percentage dropping going forward. His salary really is not that much. I guess the question is whether a 40 point, defensive specialist who is great on the PK is worth something without retention. I suspect the answer is yes, he is basically making close to the league average and he is an above average player.

Most contenders do not have 4.9M cap space for average player. That’s why he signed here and still not in Tampa

[timbit]

Kind of a joke how underestimated many posters regard Hanifin!

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

He will make 5.6% of the salary cap next year with his percentage dropping going forward. His salary really is not that much. I guess the question is whether a 40 point, defensive specialist who is great on the PK is worth something without retention. I suspect the answer is yes, he is basically making close to the league average and he is an above average player.

Finding someone to take Coleman without paying to have to do it would be amazing. He's signed till he's 35yrs old for way too much. He plays a position that we should be using cheap young guys.

The model should be:
70% +/- 5% of salary cap on top 6 + top 3 D and Goaltender
25% +/- 5% on remaining players, with 5% ready to deploy at the deadline.

I'm aware Coleman plays higher in the lineup with us (which is why we're on the bubble). In my mind he's paid 2x what he should be for his position as a 3rd liner. He should be 3% of the cap when fully realised.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Angelino

Agree! Hopefully he destroys the Leafs the same way he did the Flames. Then his daddy can get him another job when they fire him.

Jim is 82 yrs old and worth $700 million, pretty sure he'll retire or worst shortly. Brad won't have to worry about getting a new job