2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[ForeverFlameFan]

Mercer and Holtz are 11 draft spots apart, just for reference. I am okay with either

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Mercer and Holtz are 11 draft spots apart, just for reference. I am okay with either

Throw in Dube and get both.

[Bonded]

I’d be shocked if Hanifin got a 1st and Mercer. Right up there with Byram and a 1st from the Avs. It would sure be sweet

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I don't disagree, wing is the least important position...but I certainly wouldn't be upset to see Holtz and a 1st as a return, and I've just got a personal bias towards Holtz due to highlight watching back in his draft year.

Fair point. Especially when the Flames seemingly have a glut on the wing and thinner on centre post Lindholm

[Jiggy_12]

How about just Mercer? forget the 1st if we can get him. that would be a great trade

[Jacks]

Everyone complains about Spurs and then when he posts something 8 people reply. If you dislike him so much stop giving him so much attention.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Choosing US Hockey over Hockey Canada shows a lack of intelligence and character in my view. I have no respect for US Hockey and wouldn't want someone showing that level of poor judgment on my team.

Take this things keyboard away. I’ll donate to the cause.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah I think Holtz is more likely just because Mercer is already a bigger part of the team.

Hanifin for the Devils is an interesting long term play for sure, that helps now and the future. They could use another LH dman.

LH: Hughes, Siegenthaler
RH: Hamilton, Marino, Nemec

Add Hanifin to that mix and's a pretty impressive d-core for the foreseeable future.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

How about just Mercer? forget the 1st if we can get him. that would be a great trade

I think people are undervaluing an extended Hanifin here, especially for a team who's ambitions are the SC and their top D man is out. I would find an extended Hanifin straight up for Mercer a little underwhelming.

[bzoo02]

My guess is as soon as Kylington is up to speed they'll pull the trigger on a Hanifin trade

Weegar - Andersson
Kylington - Tanev
Gilbert/Oesterle - DeSimone

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I think people are undervaluing an extended Hanifin here, especially for a team who's ambitions are the SC and their top D man is out. I would find an extended Hanifin straight up for Mercer a little underwhelming.

Agreed, I and others do undervalue our own players consistently. I just really like Mercer.

That said, I really like Hanifin - more so this year than ever.

[Roof-Daddy]

Aw geez you guys. Got me thinking about adding Holtz/Mercer and Byram and then watching the Flames go to the draft and pick three players in round 1??

And that's just from trading Hanifin and Lindholm. They could still trade a retained Tanev and maybe a long shot at Markstrom as well.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Aw geez you guys. Got me thinking about adding Holtz/Mercer and Byram and then watching the Flames go to the draft and pick three players in round 1??

And that's just from trading Hanifin and Lindholm. They could still trade a retained Tanev and maybe a long shot at Markstrom as well.

That would be one impressive retool when you think about it.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Throw in Dube and get both.

Dube is not going to help getting Mercer.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I think people are undervaluing an extended Hanifin here, especially for a team who's ambitions are the SC and their top D man is out. I would find an extended Hanifin straight up for Mercer a little underwhelming.

Depends on your view of Mercer. getting him would be huge. I'd prefer Mercer straight up over Holtz and a 1st.

But I get that many would disagree.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by bzoo02

My guess is as soon as Kylington is up to speed they'll pull the trigger on a Hanifin trade

Weegar - Andersson
Kylington - Tanev
Gilbert/Oesterle - DeSimone

I don't think they wait for Kylington. He could suffer another setback

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

That would be one impressive retool when you think about it.

It would be awesome but those returns are way above what I'd expect. So fingers crossed

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Boreal

You might want to have a look at the development models Bud. Hockey Canada is an an archaic dinosaur, and the lower levels of bureaucracy (province, city, community) are even worse.

Jake Sanderson chose the USNDP over Hockey Canada and he grew up in a one of the top hockey development markets in the country. Hard to blame him. Competency vs. Incompetency.

I have looked at the development model, Canada still pumping out more and better talent than any other country.

The myth that Canada's development isn't good or being passed is based on nothing at all, it is pure fiction.

Maybe you should look at what is actually happening rather than made up narratives in your fantasyland mind.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Boreal

You might want to have a look at the development models Bud. Hockey Canada is an an archaic dinosaur, and the lower levels of bureaucracy (province, city, community) are even worse.

Jake Sanderson chose the USNDP over Hockey Canada and he grew up in a one of the top hockey development markets in the country. Hard to blame him. Competency vs. Incompetency.

On top of the development program, there's also the major incentive of NCAA play.

In Canada, you commit your whole life to hockey and just hope it works out. If not, well....that's your life wasted. In the USA, you get a free college education at a top tier college along the way.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by blankall

On top of the development program, there's also the major incentive of NCAA play.

In Canada, you commit your whole life to hockey and just hope it works out. If not, well....that's your life wasted. In the USA, you get a free college education at a top tier college along the way.

Another myth, if you want an education playing in the WHL doesn't prevent that at all.