Ryan Hartman admits deliberate high-stick on hot mic

[memphusk]

As soon as Hartman told me it was intentional I would of two handed him right behind the knees. Buckled him. Thats for high sticking me and admitting to it being on purpose.

[Locke]

Oh Hartman is in serious trouble the next time they play...unless his wife gets him first...

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Owen15

It seems to me the Wild are one of the chippier teams in the league. Erickson Ek is a bit of a prick I think. One of those good if he’s on your team, easy to hate when he’s on the other team.

Maroon is a doorknob too

[Buff]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1742745651958448191

I totally agree with Jennifer on this one. Archaic take by Mayers and that view and the actions are holding the game back. Tough and physical hockey is entertaining but this was barbaric and overstepping the boundaries. The NHL also misses the boat with its wheel of justice lacking punch.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Botterill is the best panelist SN has. Listening to the two old guys talk was as comical as it was frustrating. What a stupid conversation, this isn’t “part of hockey”. It was ####ing dumb.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Meh. This is nothing.

If anything, the negative fan reaction to it is the exact reason why we'll never be able to grow NHL entertainment into including non-filtered mic'd up moments like that.

Exactly. Because the big difference between NBA, NFL, MLB and the NHL is those other leauges fully support and even encourage hot mic moments where players admit to trying to injure others. That's the entertainment fans pay to see.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Buff

I totally agree with Jennifer on this one. Archaic take by Mayers and that view and the actions are holding the game back. Tough and physical hockey is entertaining but this was barbaric and overstepping the boundaries. The NHL also misses the boat with its wheel of justice lacking punch.

This is why the NHL badly needs an infusion of non-hockey businesspeople at league headquarters. You can't have the same meatheads that played, running the show. Sure there should be some hired as advisors but they are far too biased to be making big decisions. The NHL has way too many ex-players and coaches in their business operations. The fact that an ex-goon is the head of the NHL's Department of Player Safety is laughable. Colin Campbell should have been immediately dismissed after that email scandal outed him as corrupt and neanderthal yet he's still Vice President of Hockey Operations because of the old dinosaurs club they have going on.

[BigFlameDog]

Perfetti sure looked "scared" in his interview lol. Mayers made himself sound stupid on that one IMO.

[kermitology]

Boy that take from Mayers is just wrong. Perfetti has literally nothing to do with the injury to Kaprizov other than he plays for the Jets. There were two fights earlier weren't there? It's cheap, it's dirty, and it doesn't belong in the game.

I'm really tired of the archaic tropes of the NHL. Heck, even the injury to Kaprizov looks hard to believe it would be intentional. We've seen so much worse before, even think back to the same franchise, the Wild, literally targeting Gaudreau a few years ago with what 21 slashes to his hands before they finally broke Johnny's finger.

The Wild need to be sent a message by the league. They look like fools otherwise.

[bdubbs]

Hard to disagree with anything Jennifer said in that. We don't watch the game for the cheapshots and the revenge plots and we want more skilled players not less. Dillon taking out Kaprizov (unintentionally or not) takes a skilled player out of the game. Hartman intentionally hitting another player in the face could've done a lot worse to a young skilled player, and Perfetti wasn't even involved in Dillon's decision.

Get rid of the stupid dirty stuff.

[Jiggy]

Just a dumb play. What if Hartman took an eye out? I'm sure Mayers would find a way to defend that too.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Botterill is the best panelist SN has. Listening to the two old guys talk was as comical as it was frustrating. What a stupid conversation, this isn’t “part of hockey”. It was ####ing dumb.

"If you don't like that, maybe you don't like playoff hockey".

What an idiot.

Goons have always over-stated their actual relevance in the game. "Sending a message", "The Code".

What a lot of malarkey.

Good on Botterill for challenging it.

[8sPOT]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Refs have no control over games? Did you see the cross chek on Kaprizov? It wasn't even that hard as they were in the corner battling for the puck. It just happened to hit him in the right spot and injure him but far from viscous. This is that same retaliation garbage we see anytime a top player takes a hard but clean hit and totally unnecessary for Harman to cheap shot Perfetti.

But why is a cross check ever allowed? That makes no sense to me. It's supposed to be a penalty but there are dozens of little cross checks throughout every game. I never understood how they let most go and then at random will call it a penalty.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

"If you don't like that, maybe you don't like playoff hockey".

What an idiot.

Goons have always over-stated their actual relevance in the game. "Sending a message", "The Code".

What a lot of malarkey.

Good on Botterill for challenging it.

So disconnected from realty and the current mindset of the majority of the fans.

If he two handed him in the face while standing upright, it’s 20 games. I don’t see much difference here, two hands, pulling up (more force), directly into his face… on purpose.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

This is why the NHL badly needs an infusion of non-hockey businesspeople at league headquarters. You can't have the same meatheads that played, running the show. Sure there should be some hired as advisors but they are far too biased to be making big decisions. The NHL has way too many ex-players and coaches in their business operations. The fact that an ex-goon is the head of the NHL's Department of Player Safety is laughable. Colin Campbell should have been immediately dismissed after that email scandal outed him as corrupt and neanderthal yet he's still Vice President of Hockey Operations because of the old dinosaurs club they have going on.

Soooooo hire people that don’t know the game to improve the game?????????????

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Soooooo hire people that don’t know the game to improve the game?????????????

Well first of all you need to know where to look when it comes to improving the game and you certainly don't look to the past which is essentially who's running the league. When looking to improve a product does a company survey their own employees or do they survey the customers that consume their products? Most of the dinosaurs running the league are consumed with history, codes, personal agendas, etc. You let me know when the NFL hires Vontaz Burfict to hand out discipline for players. You let me know when one of the other big four sports has a Coyotes situation. It's ridiculous that a former face puncher that made an entire career out of neglecting player safety is the man that now hands out discipline. It's ridiculous that NHL officials are still allowed to manage games but this is what Campbell and the old guard wants despite the fact that it drives hardcore fans crazy and confuses new and casual fans who don't understand why a penalty in the first period it not called in late in the 3rd period/overtime or why a penalty must be called on one team as a makeup because their undisciplined opponents have been short handed multiple times. The game has improved over the years but very slowly as there are still far too many ridiculous codes amongst the officials, players and dirty plays and injuries that do not get properly disciplined.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Soooooo hire people that don’t know the game to improve the game?????????????

You don’t have to have played in the NHL to know the game of hockey.

Plus, hiring from outside seems to work for… I don’t know… 99% of other industries? Hockey isn’t a very complex product.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well first of all you need to know where to look when it comes to improving the game and you certainly don't look to the past which is essentially who's running the league. When looking to improve a product does a company survey their own employees or do they survey the customers that consume their products? Most of the dinosaurs running the league are consumed with history, codes, personal agendas, etc. You let me know when the NFL hires Vontaz Burfict to hand out discipline for players. You let me know when one of the other big four sports has a Coyotes situation. It's ridiculous that a former face puncher that made an entire career out of neglecting player safety is the man that now hands out discipline. It's ridiculous that NHL officials are still allowed to manage games but this is what Campbell and the old guard wants despite the fact that it drives hardcore fans crazy and confuses new and casual fans who don't understand why a penalty in the first period it not called in late in the 3rd period/overtime or why a penalty must be called on one team as a makeup because their undisciplined opponents have been short handed multiple times. The game has improved over the years but very slowly as there are still far too many ridiculous codes amongst the officials, players and dirty plays and injuries that do not get properly disciplined.

There should probably be more of a mix for sure in terms of having some former players, but also some outsiders without as much personal experience in the NHL or on the ice.

I don't think it's surprising that a lot of the time it's some of the female players that bring a better viewpoint to the game in the TV panels...same knowledge of the sport without all the baggage that comes with being a former NHLer.

Former players handling discipline is the craziest one to me though...how does being a former player make a person more qualified for that role? How can people not see a potential conflict of interest when a guy is making decisions on former teams he played for or teammates?

George Parros 100% has his own biases when it comes to that role and we've seen that in his decisions. That's a role that should not have a former player near it in any capacity.

[GirlySports]

The issue is that the NHL can't decide what it is. It wants it both ways. It wants the game to be fast but safe. It wants the game tough but not dirty. It wants rivalries and bad blood but not too much.

[The Yen Man]

Mayers sounded like a neanderthal there. That was totally a cheap shot, and a dangerous one. What if he caught him in the eye? If that's Mayers stance, he has no issue if Hartman speared him instead then technically.

I love how Botterill asked him if that was your son, you'd be ok with it? And Mayer's dumb response back was, well he's not my son? So you're not ok with it, you hack.