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Old 01-03-2024, 03:40 PM   #15281
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There could be nuance involved, folks.
Brad could have been a good GM with some big blind spots when it came to overpaying for specific player types he felt his team was lacking.
Sutter could have been a coaching hire that he pushed for and ownership liked.
Sutter could have been the right coach for a team on the cusp but also one whose style wore on people over time.
Not everything needs to be one or the other.
C'mon Nate... "Good GM" and "Big Blind Spots" don't tend to go hand-in-hand, and regardless of who wanted Sutter and the "rightness" of the hire Sutter is a well known commodity in all respects (including that he has a short shelf life).
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Old 01-03-2024, 03:40 PM   #15282
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Unless Calgary was in a playoff spot last year, he'd likely have been traded.

But if he was playing with Huberdeau, maybe he'd have only 25 points?

Maybe Calgary wins the draft lottery and gets Bedard.

Maybe yada yada.
how is that possible lol
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Old 01-03-2024, 04:30 PM   #15283
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I'll never ever get over the Hamonic trade. 2nd worst trade in team history.
I think the Marc Savard trade was worse, assuming you have Gilmour at 1.

Reto Berra is probably the goalie you forgot in the Elliott post.
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I think the Marc Savard trade was worse, assuming you have Gilmour at 1.

Reto Berra is probably the goalie you forgot in the Elliott post.
and depending on your feelings on the Kidd/Brodeur pick shenanigans
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C'mon Nate... "Good GM" and "Big Blind Spots" don't tend to go hand-in-hand, and regardless of who wanted Sutter and the "rightness" of the hire Sutter is a well known commodity in all respects (including that he has a short shelf life).

Who the heck is Nate?
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and depending on your feelings on the Kidd/Brodeur pick shenanigans
I dont view that one as that bad only because Kidd was so highly touted and Brodeur was far from a sure thing and the Flames likely don't draft Brodeur anyways with their original pick.
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Who the heck is Nate?
I thought the same thing, then assumed that poster knew you in real life!
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Old 01-03-2024, 05:22 PM   #15288
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Who the heck is Nate?
Pipe down Nate.
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Old 01-03-2024, 05:22 PM   #15289
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Seems like the jets may be interested in Lindholm and have a need for RHD.


They have some good pieces.
Looking at the 1st+prospect+young roster model


1st + lambert/lucius/barloe/McGroarty + stanley/Hamburg

Would be a really enticing package.

Could also throw in Tanvev for a 2nd if they want to load up.
The Jets are interested? I hadn't read that anywhere. But they have interesting assets for sure.
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Old 01-03-2024, 05:27 PM   #15290
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and depending on your feelings on the Kidd/Brodeur pick shenanigans
Kidd was ranked far higher, had CP existed we would have all been on board

also we probably would have ran Brodeur out of town anyway
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The Jets are interested? I hadn't read that anywhere. But they have interesting assets for sure.
I think it was a couple weeks ago and either Serivalli or Chris Johnston brought it up.

It starts with Heinola IMO if we are dealing with the Jets for Lindy, add in Lambert and let's get little Helsinki rolling in CGY.
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You were saying?
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You were saying?
Missed chance to literally say 'I am Groot."
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how is that possible lol
I explained it fully in the yada yada.
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Old 01-03-2024, 08:03 PM   #15296
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I explained it fully in the yada yada.
even by this threads standards Huberdeau and Tkachuk on the same Flames team last season seems...impossible
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Old 01-03-2024, 08:09 PM   #15297
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even by this threads standards Huberdeau and Tkachuk on the same Flames team last season seems...impossible
Nothing is impossible if you truly believe.
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The only thing that makes sense is typo; typed n and he meant m for mate?? Autocorrect thought he was typing a name and capitalized it to finish the confusion?!

Final answer
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I think it was a couple weeks ago and either Serivalli or Chris Johnston brought it up.

It starts with Heinola IMO if we are dealing with the Jets for Lindy, add in Lambert and let's get little Helsinki rolling in CGY.
Isn’t the bloom off the Heinola rose a bit now? Looked good at WJC a few years ago but expected an NHL breakthrough by now.

Winnipeg has other prospects that are more interesting to me.
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Isn’t the bloom off the Heinola rose a bit now? Looked good at WJC a few years ago but expected an NHL breakthrough by now.

Winnipeg has other prospects that are more interesting to me.
He broke his foot/ankle in preseason. He was a lock to make the team out of camp. Nothings stopped the bloom on that rose aside from a long term injury.
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