What to do with Huberdeau?

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The Flames are not bottoming out into a top 5 pick regardless of when they trade the UFA's.

Peter Maher use to say that the second quarter of the season shows you what kind of team you have and that's the rate of which they will play for the second half.

If you believe that, there have been some real dogs in this second quarter (Buffalo, Ottawa, Chicago, Anaheim, San Jose, Detroit) while we've been just slightly over .500.

We might have to break futility records in the second half of the season to get into the top 5

[gvitaly]

I wasn't following this thread, but I'm surprised by how much discussion it generated.

Assuming there are 12 regular forwards on a team, then Huberdaeu can have a maximum of 110 potential line combination on this Flames team.

We can narrow it down further by assuming he'll play with 1 of 3 centers that don't play with each other, which narrows it down to 24 combinations.

How many circles do 2600 posts have to make in order to discuss 24 potential line combinations?

Anyway, I'm glad he scored last night, that was a fun goal to watch.

[Goriders]

We’ve been playing a lot of the upper level teams over the last month or so. We get a lot of the bottom feeders in January. I think this month will be a pretty good indicator of where the Flames at.

Continue with the win one lose one and they are going nowhere. Get on a heater and Conroy’s strategy may change slightly.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

Peter Maher use to say that the second quarter of the season shows you what kind of team you have and that's the rate of which they will play for the second half.

If you believe that, there have been some real dogs in this second quarter (Buffalo, Ottawa, Chicago, Anaheim, San Jose, Detroit) while we've been just slightly over .500.

We might have to break futility records in the second half of the season to get into the top 5

This takes me back to when I was mocked of the forum last summer for saying these teams still suck

Pens too

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by dino7c

This takes me back to when I was mocked of the forum last summer for saying these teams still suck

Pens too

Pittsburgh has actually had a pretty strong second quarter so far. They are in a really tough division though

[Locke]

What to do with Huberdeau?

Can we get him on a stationary bike connected to a generator that powers the ice plant for the Saddledome?

That would be productive at least. Save a few bucks?

Oh! We could try and net our energy cost savings against his Cap hit! That'd be great!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

Pittsburgh has actually had a pretty strong second quarter so far. They are in a really tough division though

well it was more that they had no business trading for EK so they can miss the playoffs again

they certainly aren't a contender

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The Flames are not bottoming out into a top 5 pick regardless of when they trade the UFA's.

Hmmm ...

Not sure I'd agree on that.

That's the top pairing and the first line center for a team that isn't all that far from being say 5th overall in lottery odds right now.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Hmmm ...

Not sure I'd agree on that.

That's the top pairing and the first line center for a team that isn't all that far from being say 5th overall in lottery odds right now.

Believe in your post game thread - you said the Flames were unlikley to make the playoffs while being 3 points out. They are 5 points ahead of the 5th bottom spot and 10 points ahead of the bottom 3 teams.

They'd have to seriously collapse for those already bad teams to make up 10 points on them.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Believe in your post game thread - you said the Flames were unlikley to make the playoffs while being 3 points out. They are 5 points ahead of the 5th bottom spot and 10 points ahead of the bottom 3 teams.

They'd have to seriously collapse for those already bad teams to make up 10 points on them.

They are unlikely to pass four teams and play at a 102 point pace the rest of the way, yes.

They are more likely to be a worse team without their top pairing and top center.

If they didn't trade said players I would agree with you 100%. Assuming they do, though, not sure how anyone could suggest they won't be worse off with three of their best say 8 players gone.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Bingo

They are unlikely to pass four teams and play at a 102 point pace the rest of the way, yes.

They are more likely to be a worse team without their top pairing and top center.

If they didn't trade said players I would agree with you 100%. Assuming they do, though, not sure how anyone could suggest they won't be worse off with three of their best say 8 players gone.

Good point, just like in the game thread last night when people were complaining about Osterle, I said just wait and see what happens after we trade 2 or 3 more of our NHL defensemen

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Hmmm ...

Not sure I'd agree on that.

That's the top pairing and the first line center for a team that isn't all that far from being say 5th overall in lottery odds right now.

its a little different caliber but...as I predicted the Flames record is no worse without Zadorov, in fact its better

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The Flames are not bottoming out into a top 5 pick regardless of when they trade the UFA's.

Losing Tanev, Hanifin and Lindholm (on top of already losing Zadorov) to presumably be replaced by effectively raw and/or journeyman level players is certainly going to equate to a very poor result in the short term. Who is going to handle some of the toughest opposition when Weegar and Anderson are not on the ice at that point?

I don't think it would be at all outlandish in that instance to expect the Flames to go 8-18-4 or something to finish the season. That would definitely put them right in the top 5 pick conversation.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Losing Tanev, Hanifin and Lindholm (on top of already losing Zadorov) to presumably be replaced by effectively raw and/or journeyman level players is certainly going to equate to a very poor result in the short term. Who is going to handle some of the toughest opposition when Weegar and Anderson are not on the ice at that point?

I don't think it would be at all outlandish in that instance to expect the Flames to go 8-18-4 or something to finish the season. That would definitely put them right in the top 5 pick conversation.

have you seen the Flames schedule

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

Good point, just like in the game thread last night when people were complaining about Osterle, I said just wait and see what happens after we trade 2 or 3 more of our NHL defensemen

Are you saying people will complain less?

[GioforPM]

Only 3 good games in a row but so far the keep or add minutes and give him more opportunities strategy seems to be working.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Well we don't know what the returns will be for all those players.

We could get some better players to put in the lineup than journeymen players.

Good chance they collapse after the trades, but you never know. Young players getting a chance and pushing for a chance for permanent roster spots usually give teams fits.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Are you saying people will complain less?

I suspect many here will love the results ha ha

[dino7c]

Flames without Lindholm, Hanifin, Tanev out and a few youngsters in is still better than SJ, Chicago, ect. on most nights IMO

speaking of those two league worst teams the Flames haven't even played them yet

[Hackey]

If we're lucky, they crap the bed after the trade deadline. I really hope they're not picking in the double digits this year. Top 5 seems unlikely, but would be exciting.