2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The fact they almost closed the Hanifin deal makes me wonder if they want another vet on the blueline.

He was signed during that losing streak.

I would much rather sign someone in free agency to a 2 year deal or something to fill the gap while we wait for some players to mature.

The loss of Kylington really stings.

Best case scenario may be a returning vet defenseman that the acquiring teams sees as a Hanifin upgrade, but signed to less term.

Would give the Flames someone for this year and next so they don't blow their brains out in free agency, and get more value in the trade for taking the cap hit on.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Royle9

With every win Craig and the crew delve further into that meddling mediocrity and the fear of actually making a big trade as it seems they think we can compete long term and are scared to move someone of “impact”

Such a crappy situation

Pretty much everything we are hearing suggests this just isn't the case.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by traptor

If you're going to forum police then you should do so equitably.
You should go after users with all viewpoints thay do this.
Seems like your targeting a certain subset.

Don't want to name names but theres been posters disparaging the idea that anyone was against the trades. Havnet seen you call them out.

I have a pretty long history of pointing out users that try to eliminate argument by suggesting any other view than their own is flawed or weak.

But I'm sure I've missed some!

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Make him a 4-5 million dollar player.

I’m not a fan of Kadri’s game. It’s selfish and lazy at times. I’ll never forgive him for the shuffleboard hockey he played at the end of last season. He has rebounded into expectations this year tho.

I just don’t see Colorado wanting the term of the deal but you know wink wink he blows a hip anything can happen in this league with LTIR.

I think even a million of cap retention makes Kadri a desirable player. Only 5 full years left now, and the cap is going up.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Bedard-Draisaitl-Marner in 2 seasons... yikes.

Don’t forget Cellibrini.

[madmike]

Originally Posted by Parallex

I think they ought to move at least a couple of wingers on top of Lindholm (So Dube + 1 or 2 more).

Connor Zary
Jonathan Huberdeau
Andrew Mangiapane
Jakob Pelletier
Yegor Sharangovich
Blake Coleman
Martin Pospisil
Dillon Dube
Walker Duehr
Matthew Coronato

... that's 10 wingers that should be getting NHL reps and we have only 8 spots... + I imagine they'll want to change the mix of veterans in the offseason... like sign Duclair to try and get Huberdeau going or something like that + and the possibility that if our 1st round pick is talented enough he might go straight to the NHL.

Isn’t Zary a natural centre? He should be pretty easy to switch back. Still leaves a bit of a logjam.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Don’t forget Cellibrini.

What’s Chicago giving us for him?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I think the flames will make their trades this year but the team’s competitiveness at the moment will likely lead to them picking outside the top 6-7 picks IMO. If they don’t try to instantly make the team better in free agency this summer (Chandler Stephenson has classic flames overpay to get a proven winner that’s 30+ years-old written all over him), I think the flames will bottom out next year and be in the mix for a top 5 pick.

Assuming they trade Hanifin, Lindholm, Tanev and one of Markstrom/Vladar without signing any big name players, their roster looks like this next season:

Mangiapane-Kadri-Posposil
Huberdeau-Zary-Sharongovich
Pelletier/Coronato-Backlund-Coleman
Greer-Ruzicka-Dube

Andersson-Weegar
Kyllington-Gilbert
Soloviov-Poirier

Vladar/Markstrom
Wolf

There will likely be growing pains for all the young players. Pelletier, Coronato, Poirier, Soloviov and Wolf will be trying to become full-time NHLers. Zary could be transitioning to center and could feel the sophomore slump like many players do. Kyllington (if he does return) could take time to regain his form after two years without playing.

All that makes for a team that works hard but struggles to win games IMO. This year pick in the 8-10 range. Next year pick in the top 5.

I’ll be very surprised if the Flames eschew the UFA market entirely and start next season with 12m+ in cap space. At the very least, I expect they’ll bring in a 3-4m forward and a 4-5m d-man.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Elliotte Friedman speculates that Toronto Maple Leafs' GM Brad Treliving offered several teams a sixth-round draft pick for a goalie, to which every team declined. He reportedly hoped a team would be desperate to move one
Luke Fox of Sportsnet speculates that Dan Vladar (Flames), Jake Allen (Canadiens), Eric Comrie (Sabres), & Anton Forsberg (Senators) were amongst the goalies Treliving targeted.


I see he hasn’t changed a bit.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Elliotte Friedman speculates that Toronto Maple Leafs' GM Brad Treliving offered several teams a sixth-round draft pick for a goalie, to which every team declined. He reportedly hoped a team would be desperate to move one
Luke Fox of Sportsnet speculates that Dan Vladar (Flames), Jake Allen (Canadiens), Eric Comrie (Sabres), & Anton Forsberg (Senators) were amongst the goalies Treliving targeted.


I see he hasn’t changed a bit.

lol oh brad

[Tkachukwagon]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Elliotte Friedman speculates that Toronto Maple Leafs' GM Brad Treliving offered several teams a sixth-round draft pick for a goalie, to which every team declined. He reportedly hoped a team would be desperate to move one
Luke Fox of Sportsnet speculates that Dan Vladar (Flames), Jake Allen (Canadiens), Eric Comrie (Sabres), & Anton Forsberg (Senators) were amongst the goalies Treliving targeted.


I see he hasn’t changed a bit.

A 6th rounder is a bit of a slap in the face.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Elliotte Friedman speculates that Toronto Maple Leafs' GM Brad Treliving offered several teams a sixth-round draft pick for a goalie, to which every team declined. He reportedly hoped a team would be desperate to move one
Luke Fox of Sportsnet speculates that Dan Vladar (Flames), Jake Allen (Canadiens), Eric Comrie (Sabres), & Anton Forsberg (Senators) were amongst the goalies Treliving targeted.


I see he hasn’t changed a bit.

Imagine Tre offering a 6th to get Vladar when he initially traded a 3rd to acquire him in the first place

[Ozy_Flame]

Let me entice you with a pick that appears to be low, but could be your NEXT Dustin Wolf!

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by madmike

Isn’t Zary a natural centre? He should be pretty easy to switch back. Still leaves a bit of a logjam.

Yeah... but we don't know if he'd be a good one at the NHL level and I'm kind of hoping that the empty C spot get's filled by Macklin Celebrini or Cayden Lindstrom or Conner Geekie or some other premium asset.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I get it’s speculation, but given the TDL trades he usually made and settling on depth players for mid picks, I think this speculation is likely spot on and the reason why the goalie market hasn’t been moved. Brad, it’s a sellers market when it comes to goaltending this season.

Imagine acquiring Vladar for a 3rd and then offering a 6th when he’s done nothing but keep his value the same if not better (with the term Vladar has).

Stay away from Toronto. Brad isn’t taking trades with anyone seriously.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Elliotte Friedman speculates that Toronto Maple Leafs' GM Brad Treliving offered several teams a sixth-round draft pick for a goalie, to which every team declined. He reportedly hoped a team would be desperate to move one
Luke Fox of Sportsnet speculates that Dan Vladar (Flames), Jake Allen (Canadiens), Eric Comrie (Sabres), & Anton Forsberg (Senators) were amongst the goalies Treliving targeted.


I see he hasn’t changed a bit.

Tre is drinking the leafs kool-aid, thinks even his draft picks are worth extra coming from Toronto.

I wish him nothing but failure going forward.

[Bingo]

There are quite a few goaltenders out there.

If you're sitting on one and want to make sure you get him dealt before the deadline maybe you bite.

No GM is out there leads with a final offer, so he's smartly testing the market to see if anyone is getting edgy.

The Tre dislike can get pretty imaginative.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Best case scenario may be a returning vet defenseman that the acquiring teams sees as a Hanifin upgrade, but signed to less term.

Would give the Flames someone for this year and next so they don't blow their brains out in free agency, and get more value in the trade for taking the cap hit on.

I'm still hoping they trade Tanev at the deadline and re-sign him in the summer to a friendly two year deal. Yes, his overall game will be declining but he still has a lot of experience to share with the young defencemen that will be coming into the lineup.

[Matty81]

Moving a goalie to a team that is struggling isn't just about the pick you get back. You're also throwing a potential life preserver to a competing team like the Oilers whose goalies are brutal and potentially making yourself look really bad if that goalie gets hot when you know they will walk into a starting job. No way anyone ships a goalie of any quality out for a 6th. That's boat anchor contract or journeyman AHL caliber territory

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Boy I wish there was something we could do with Hanifin and the Coyotes to land Connor Geekie.

Geekie brings an element we haven't had since Iggy left.

Not sure how keen AZ is on trading him, but that would be a fantastic start to a trade for Hanifin.

Yes please.