12-31-2023, 09:45 AM
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#14661
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
What goaltenders are worth big contracts today? We are in an era with few goaltenders in the league with HOF resumes. Maybe Quick squeeks in, Vasilevskiy has a chance, Hellebuyck alongshot as the league is simply in a period devoid of great goaltenders.
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Canadian goaltenders for sure, we’re not in a golden era by any stretch. But I think it’s probably more parity than anything, and coaches realizing cooking your goaltender for 65+ games in regular season isn’t ideal for playoff success.
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12-31-2023, 09:50 AM
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#14662
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With the amount of time and especially money parents spend on skill development for skaters nowadays you would think that goaltending should be better than ever with the opportunities to have personalized coaching.
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12-31-2023, 10:30 AM
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#14663
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Ferarri
Friedman talking about goalie woes and who could be buyers and sellers. Listed Calgary in the “Not Yet” column when he talks about moving a keeper. Time for Conroy to fall into the sellers category. It’s time…this team isn’t good enough and we all know that Markstrom could get a big haul with so many teams showing desperation. Even if you have to retain salary at this point, it could be worth the sacrifice depending on what the return is.
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The flaw in this thinking is obvious: Conroy is simply NOT going to waste time working out a deal with someone if his player isn't going to waive his NMC. One would assume that Conny has a pretty good idea of Markstrom's plans and will act accordingly.
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Last edited by taxbuster; 12-31-2023 at 10:33 AM.
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12-31-2023, 11:12 AM
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#14664
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Before Conroy try to trade Markstrom, he would have to ask him if he would waive and where?
Anyway, there are plenty of other trades he needs to make , I do not think he is even trying to trade Markstrom unless someone asks
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12-31-2023, 11:29 AM
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#14666
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Before Conroy try to trade Markstrom, he would have to ask him if he would waive and where?
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He doesn't have to but that would make it a waste of time if he did it after negotiating a trade only to have Markstrom reject it.
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12-31-2023, 11:38 AM
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#14667
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by Inferno
He doesn't have to but that would make it a waste of time if he did it after negotiating a trade only to have Markstrom reject it.
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Yeah that’s what I meant. English is not good
He would need some kind of understanding with Markstrom otherwise it’s a waste of time and hurt feelings
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12-31-2023, 11:48 AM
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#14668
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Yeah that’s what I meant. English is not good
He would need some kind of understanding with Markstrom otherwise it’s a waste of time and hurt feelings
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These conversations have already taken place with markstrom. I know Craig knows where Markstrom stands and where he is and isn’t willing to go and play if it isn’t Calgary.
These conversations happen more often. One on Ones with GMs happen on the bus, the plane in the weight room ect. They talk to the their agent and Craig talks to their agent. Every player is different but Craig knows…
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12-31-2023, 11:54 AM
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#14669
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sec214
These conversations have already taken place with markstrom. I know Craig knows where Markstrom stands and where he is and isn’t willing to go and play if it isn’t Calgary.
These conversations happen more often. One on Ones with GMs happen on the bus, the plane in the weight room ect. They talk to the their agent and Craig talks to their agent. Every player is different but Craig knows…
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To your knowledge is Marky willing to waive? I'd have guessed no.
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12-31-2023, 11:58 AM
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#14670
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
To your knowledge is Marky willing to waive? I'd have guessed no.
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I'd read what Sec said as he is willing to waive for some very specific spots.
Interesting note on Marky - his last two years include $2.5M in bonuses in both 2024 and 2025, so if the Flames were to maximize Marky's value, it could be viewed that trading him would be best on or after his first $2.5M bonus is paid (I imagine it's on July 1st, 2024).
...unless of course there's a hot goalie market in-season this year.
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12-31-2023, 12:02 PM
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#14671
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Too many reports about Markstrom only willing to go to certain places, and those places are unlikely to be teams we make a deal with so we are stuck with him as he cares more about family than hockey.
He earned that right when the Flames stupidly gave him a NMC but sucks for us nonetheless.
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12-31-2023, 12:05 PM
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#14672
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Spurs
Too many reports about Markstrom only willing to go to certain places, and those places are unlikely to be teams we make a deal with so we are stuck with him as he cares more about family than hockey.
He earned that right when the Flames stupidly gave him a NMC but sucks for us nonetheless.
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The Flames were competing with the Oilers for his services. I don't think handing him an NMC was all that stupid.
If the Flames do manage to trade him for some assets, I think it's an absolute win. He was a free agent signing, and outside of being piss poor last season - he hasn't turned into an anchor by any means.
If the Oilers had him right now, they'd be better than they are. That's a win.
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12-31-2023, 12:05 PM
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#14673
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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The Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little, and it will fail, to the ruin of all. Yet hope remains while the Company is true. Go Flames Go!
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.
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12-31-2023, 12:13 PM
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#14675
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Franchise Player
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Feels like somethings gonna happen.
Has to be some goalie movement.
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12-31-2023, 12:20 PM
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#14676
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
The Flames were competing with the Oilers for his services. I don't think handing him an NMC was all that stupid.
If the Flames do manage to trade him for some assets, I think it's an absolute win. He was a free agent signing, and outside of being piss poor last season - he hasn't turned into an anchor by any means.
If the Oilers had him right now, they'd be better than they are. That's a win.
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Let him go to the Oilers, we have won nothing with him, weren't in a place that we were ever going to win with him.
I am competing against the NHL not the Oilers, but even if we were just worried about the Oilers they are not a Marstrom away from competing they have major issues beyond that.
If we trade him that is great, but not sure we will and that is the concern.
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12-31-2023, 12:20 PM
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#14677
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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They're gonna bring up Hildeby.
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12-31-2023, 12:25 PM
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#14678
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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Yes please. Always wanted this player on the Flames. Think he's a perfect 3rd line C
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12-31-2023, 12:28 PM
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#14679
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
Too many reports about Markstrom only willing to go to certain places, and those places are unlikely to be teams we make a deal with so we are stuck with him as he cares more about family than hockey.
He earned that right when the Flames stupidly gave him a NMC but sucks for us nonetheless.
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Top ten free agents get NMCs often.
It's not stupid if you want the player.
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12-31-2023, 12:31 PM
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#14680
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Yes please. Always wanted this player on the Flames. Think he's a perfect 3rd line C
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No thanks. I see nothing in this guy but a bottom 6 depth player. We can do better.
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