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[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Matthews didn't take the bag. Nylander isn't Hall or Klingberg. He's 27 years old, just hitting his prime, and one more year would enable the Leafs to give him the deal he wants. There's just no way he can get that deal this offseason season so something will have to give. I'm not saying it will happen but it's a possibility if both parties want to commit to each other long term.

Nylander wants a long term deal, he isn't signing a 1 year deal to stay in Toronto. He is having a career year and he will cash in on it. It would be idiotic to have a career year and then risk a poor year next year or an injury plagued season just to stay in Toronto. He loves the Leafs but he doesn't love them enough to forgo millions of dollars. He took a discount last time, it won't happen again

[Flamesfan05]

Nylander has been a 80+ player for 3 yrs now. He is having a good year but it’s not a surprise career year. He is a proven star player.

The Nylander are similar to the Tkachuk . They know what they are worth and they like money.

The wizard likes to squeeze his own player. If he does that with Nylander, the result won’t be pretty

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Matthews didn't take the bag. Nylander isn't Hall or Klingberg. He's 27 years old, just hitting his prime, and one more year would enable the Leafs to give him the deal he wants. There's just no way he can get that deal this offseason season so something will have to give. I'm not saying it will happen but it's a possibility if both parties want to commit to each other long term.

Matthews has the highest contract in the league and its not long term so he'll get paid again in his prime. That's pretty much getting the bag.

[mjk123]

Gio couldn't sell his house fast enough when he left Calgary. One of the greatest Flames though!

[jayswin]

You bumped a twenty day old thread for that? The norm in the NHL when you get traded is to sell your house very quickly after getting traded.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by jayswin

You bumped a twenty day old thread for that? The norm in the NHL when you get traded is to sell your house very quickly after getting traded.

Yeah...why would he keep it?

I could think of a million reasons to sell it. Just like Iggy. He bounced around NA so he had a 'Home Base' (as I understand technically 2) of Kelowna and Boston (because his kids went to school there) but other than that, yeah.

And Gio is from Toronto, I'd be surprised if he didnt have a place there already.

[curves2000]

If I recall correctly, he had said his plans were always to retire in Calgary and raise his family here as he had been here in essence since a young kid. He used to have a house in Toronto where they spent the summers with family. He had sold it since he was spending more and more time in Calgary. Obviously he didn't expect to be sent to Seattle as that is hard to predict and just happened to be sent to Toronto as a goodwill gesture at the trade deadline.

Since he didn't have a house in Toronto, it made sense to liquidate your house in Calgary and use some of those proceeds to buy a new home. I always thought it was worth it for us to make a some sort of deal to keep Gio here in Calgary and have his story and his commitment be part of the organization longer term. He will now just be part of Toronto in their plans/

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

bMatthews didn't take the bag. Nylander isn't Hall or Klingberg. He's 27 years old, just hitting his prime, and one more year would enable the Leafs to give him the deal he wants. There's just no way he can get that deal this offseason season so something will have to give. I'm not saying it will happen but it's a possibility if both parties want to commit to each other long term.

Matthews, perhaps more than any other player took the bag. He's simply more risk tolerant. He's betting on himself with each shorter contract he takes, and if the trend continues he likely ends his career as one of the highest earners. He takes the highest contract at a shorter term, as the cap increases he knows he'll get more money. Had McDavid taken a similar route, his current contract would be massive and he'd have made more money.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by curves2000

If I recall correctly, he had said his plans were always to retire in Calgary and raise his family here as he had been here in essence since a young kid. He used to have a house in Toronto where they spent the summers with family. He had sold it since he was spending more and more time in Calgary. Obviously he didn't expect to be sent to Seattle as that is hard to predict and just happened to be sent to Toronto as a goodwill gesture at the trade deadline.

Since he didn't have a house in Toronto, it made sense to liquidate your house in Calgary and use some of those proceeds to buy a new home. I always thought it was worth it for us to make a some sort of deal to keep Gio here in Calgary and have his story and his commitment be part of the organization longer term. He will now just be part of Toronto in their plans/

LOL, liquidate a house in Calgary area? I'm sure any house, whether it's low end to high millions are snatched up within days if not hours of listing. Edmonton might be a different story but not in Calgary, Vancouver and southern Ontario. Even foreclosures in Calgary are sold at market value.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by curves2000

If I recall correctly, he had said his plans were always to retire in Calgary and raise his family here as he had been here in essence since a young kid. He used to have a house in Toronto where they spent the summers with family. He had sold it since he was spending more and more time in Calgary. Obviously he didn't expect to be sent to Seattle as that is hard to predict and just happened to be sent to Toronto as a goodwill gesture at the trade deadline.

Since he didn't have a house in Toronto, it made sense to liquidate your house in Calgary and use some of those proceeds to buy a new home. I always thought it was worth it for us to make a some sort of deal to keep Gio here in Calgary and have his story and his commitment be part of the organization longer term. He will now just be part of Toronto in their plans/

I would’ve loved to have kept Gio as he really turned it around under Darryl. That old system Ward utilized was basically the antithesis of Gio’s strengths. His mobility was below average which should be expected given his age. So to play under Ward’s system was tough on him because of the gap control that was involved coupled with his propensity to be beaten outside.

Enter Darryl Sutter though whose system was a lot more forgiving for a defenseman like Gio, while at the same time, utilized his strengths like no other. The back pressure allowed him to be able to confidently step up and kill plays using his heavy stick, awareness and excellent timing. His ability at the offensive blue line would’ve been a boon for what Darryl emphasized too.

Man, if only we got to see him as a Flame in 21-22, I think he would’ve gotten some Norris trophy votes that season.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Even foreclosures in Calgary are sold at market value.

Every house is sold at market value of that house.

Because the selling price determines its market value.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Matthews, perhaps more than any other player took the bag. He's simply more risk tolerant. He's betting on himself with each shorter contract he takes, and if the trend continues he likely ends his career as one of the highest earners. He takes the highest contract at a shorter term, as the cap increases he knows he'll get more money. Had McDavid taken a similar route, his current contract would be massive and he'd have made more money.

Nothing to do with Gio, but I love the way Matthews structures his contracts.

You're right, he's betting on himself hard and he's going to make a ton more money.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by CSharp

LOL, liquidate a house in Calgary area? I'm sure any house, whether it's low end to high millions are snatched up within days if not hours of listing. Edmonton might be a different story but not in Calgary, Vancouver and southern Ontario. Even foreclosures in Calgary are sold at market value.

That's not what that means. He was saying convert one asset to cash to purchase another asset. You're thinking of liquidate as in sell it cheap and quick to get rid of it?

convert (assets) into cash:
"a plan to liquidate $10,000,000 worth of property over seven years"

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by CSharp

LOL, liquidate a house in Calgary area? I'm sure any house, whether it's low end to high millions are snatched up within days if not hours of listing. Edmonton might be a different story but not in Calgary, Vancouver and southern Ontario. Even foreclosures in Calgary are sold at market value.

It was more of a financial term as opposed to any sort of shot at the Calgary market. Liquidate is turning your assets into cash. He had a very nice home that was quite nice, I think the listing was for a tick over $2.2 million or something.

Calgary has a nice, higher end market but it's nothing compared to Toronto.

With the proceeds from that house he for sure needed to dip into his cash reserves to purchase an equivalent style home.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Nylander wants a long term deal, he isn't signing a 1 year deal to stay in Toronto. He is having a career year and he will cash in on it. It would be idiotic to have a career year and then risk a poor year next year or an injury plagued season just to stay in Toronto. He loves the Leafs but he doesn't love them enough to forgo millions of dollars. He took a discount last time, it won't happen again

He didn't take a discount last time. He held out into the season for maximum money and he got it including a prorated salary that paid him for the time he missed while he was holding out.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jacks

He didn't take a discount last time. He held out into the season for maximum money and he got it including a prorated salary that paid him for the time he missed while he was holding out.

Compared to what his other high end teammates got he took a discount, just because Dubas tried to nickel and dime him as long as possible doesn't change that.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Jacks

He didn't take a discount last time. He held out into the season for maximum money and he got it including a prorated salary that paid him for the time he missed while he was holding out.

In his mind, he took a discount. So, he’ll be a tough sign this time.