12-27-2023, 02:39 PM
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#14401
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Blaster86
What? What goal posts? I'm saying he's not going to wave his NMC. Finishing his contract in Calgary means he didn't waive it. I am willing to bet, based on all the information that I have and all the information that's been reported that Jakob Markstrom would not waive his NMC. You're disputing that's the case.
What goal posts?
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The goalposts moving is that not being traded is different than refusing being traded - maybe he never gets asked.
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12-27-2023, 02:42 PM
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#14402
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The goalposts moving is that not being traded is different than refusing being traded - maybe he never gets asked.
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Okay sure, but then why jump in on that particular conversation if you don't disagree? Unless your goal was just to be contrarian, in which case, bully for you! You've done it old chap! Keep a pace with the conversation, you'll have many a chance to step in with another quip or jape!
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12-27-2023, 02:46 PM
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#14403
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Okay sure, but then why jump in on that particular conversation if you don't disagree? Unless your goal was just to be contrarian, in which case, bully for you! You've done it old chap! Keep a pace with the conversation, you'll have many a chance to step in with another quip or jape!
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No need to be sensitive or sarcastic. You talked like you have spoken to him personally, and unless you have, you simply don't know.
How about this: let's make the bet about him being asked to approve a trade - if he does, I win, if he refuses (for the remainder of his contract), you win.
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12-27-2023, 02:51 PM
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#14404
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
No need to be sensitive or sarcastic. You talked like you have spoken to him personally, and unless you have, you simply don't know.
How about this: let's make the bet about him being asked to approve a trade - if he does, I win, if he refuses (for the remainder of his contract), you win.
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How will you know if he’s approached to waive for a trade ?
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12-27-2023, 02:52 PM
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#14405
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
No need to be sensitive or sarcastic.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Well, technically you can be this certain, but you'd be wrong.
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Ah, I see this snark train can only go one direction. My mistake. 
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You talked like you have spoken to him personally, and unless you have, you simply don't know
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The lead up and the fallout from his leaving Vancouver was heavily discussed here in Vancouver. I don't know him personally, but what's been reported paints a pretty
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
How about this: let's make the bet about him being asked to approve a trade - if he does, I win, if he refuses (for the remainder of his contract), you win.
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I'm not making a bet on something that can be reported and have it be not true, that's a ####ty bet. It's gotta be something that's not disputable.
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
How will you know if he’s approached to waive for a trade ?
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Or losing a bet on a report he was asked to waive and said no that turns out to be false. It's not a good bet for anybody.
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Last edited by Blaster86; 12-27-2023 at 02:55 PM.
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12-27-2023, 02:57 PM
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#14406
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h
How will you know if he’s approached to waive for a trade ?
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We might not. But we also don't know that he won't leave Western Canada - that's the point. There are no certainties here, so let's not make claims that there are.
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12-27-2023, 04:10 PM
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#14407
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Franchise Player
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At the time of Markstroms signing, it did seem like he very much wanted to be in Western Canada. I remember thinking that was a bit odd but fortunate for the Flames.
Who knows how he fells now that the team is in a completely different place. I still hold out hope that he might consider a move to a contender though and the Flames can retain on the contract to actually get a decent piece back.
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12-27-2023, 05:30 PM
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#14408
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The goalposts moving is that not being traded is different than refusing being traded - maybe he never gets asked.
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yeah if he finishes his contract in Calgary and we are uncertain if he was ever asked that should be a push...not a Blaster win
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12-27-2023, 05:50 PM
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#14409
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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12-27-2023, 05:51 PM
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#14410
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by Inferno
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Jesus what a punishment.
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12-27-2023, 06:02 PM
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#14411
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Inferno
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Bye bye!
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12-27-2023, 06:03 PM
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#14412
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Lifetime Suspension
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The threat of being sent to Winnipeg is a good negotiating tactic.
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12-27-2023, 06:08 PM
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#14413
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First Line Centre
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For the sake of 4M he's going to throw 8.5M away? I might be misunderstanding it but that's assuming he doesn't sign where he's traded to as he wants to test the open market.
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12-27-2023, 06:08 PM
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#14414
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All I can get
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Winnipeg is the Edmonton of Manitoba.
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12-27-2023, 06:09 PM
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#14415
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Winnipeg is the Edmonton of Manitoba.
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I've only been to Edmonton once. The first thing I said was "This is like Winnipeg only bigger".
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12-27-2023, 06:15 PM
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#14416
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
I've only been to Edmonton once. The first thing I said was "This is like Winnipeg only bigger".
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And slightly less flat.
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12-27-2023, 06:15 PM
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#14417
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I spent 1991-1999 (my teen years) in Grand Prairie, and that entire pos town loves the Oilers. I wore my flames winter coat, proudly.
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12-27-2023, 06:26 PM
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#14418
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
Yeah, to me that just shows how much they love the area.
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I doubt it’s as much about loving the area as wanting stability. Uprooting your life to move to another city is hugely disruptive. You and your spouse lose your home and social network. Your children lose their playmates, school, and teachers. Swedes put a huge premium on family stability. Markstrom insisted on an a NTC because he didn’t want to move for the length of the contract. It’s likely he still doesn’t want to.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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12-27-2023, 06:26 PM
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#14419
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
The threat of being sent to Winnipeg is a good negotiating tactic.
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So he spends a few months there and then goes UFA.
How does that help Calgary, as the Jets know 100% he’s a rental.
Lindholm well knows if he doesn’t sign he’s likely going somewhere for a few months. Since he’d be on the road anyway half the time, his family is not uprooted, they’ll simply move when he signs elsewhere.
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12-27-2023, 06:32 PM
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#14420
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
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lol
If he wants that kind of money then he will need to be traded asap so the acquiring team can inflate his numbers with a likely better supporting cast
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