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Old 05-22-2007, 04:16 AM   #101
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What I don't get is, how can Sylar possibly either a.) escape through the sewers or b.) have his body dragged into the sewer without anyone possibly noticing? How do they not make sure he's for sure dead?
Sylar never got Claires regenerative powers, so he is either dead or badly wounded. As for who could drag his body into the sewer without anyone noticing, there is one character who has that ability. Possibly the same person Molly was refering to - she can't see him, unless he see's her as well
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:25 AM   #102
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I am thinking that someone with invisiblity could have dragged Sylar off. Possibly the Scottish guy that taught Peter how to use his powers??
Also there is the possibility that Peter is still alive, he does have the regenerate powers so they can still play that one off. As for Nathan.....well he can still be OK. He may have sent Peter to space, left him there, took off, Peter exploded, Nathan goes back and picks him up then flies somewhere safe.
Also there is a chance that the bomb can still go off, in all the future scenes of it going off it happened in the middle of the day in the middle of a crowded street and everyone had that look like WTF is he doing here, so with Sylar still being alive it is a possibility.

Overall the finale was OK, a lot lower then I was expecting. I was soooooo hoping for the epic battle between Sylar and Peter. DAMN them for not doing that.
I am a little curious who this person who is badder then Sylar is though. If he and Sylar team up that could be nuts.
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:36 AM   #103
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The person worse than Sylar? Maybe Sylar's Dad.... to be played by none other than the emperor himself Ian McDermand!!!!


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Old 05-22-2007, 08:26 AM   #104
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Peter and Nathan will be back, there is no way they let him blow up and kill them off the series; they're far too important. Even in the alternate future, Peter is a bitter, battle-worn man dating Nikki - that storyline assumed he survived as well.

I would so mark out right now for Marty McFly to show up and help Hiro get back home!! haha...
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:11 AM   #105
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I to think Peter will be back. Claires powers ensure that. Nathan is another story.

As for the Samuri part.. Big deal and eclipse happens just before a fight.. yipee lol Sure hope they go somewhere good with that.

Sylar not being dead does not really close much off though.. Bomb portion is closed but Sylar can still explode if he wants to.

whats up with the Old guy that Peter was taking care of.. what is his story.. The dream sequence was close to the ones Suresh was having early in the show.. it was kind of interesting..

still i was expecting a bit more.. I still liked it though. cant wait for next year.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:14 AM   #106
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Anyone think Mrs. Petrelli could be the "worst then Sylar" character? She knew about the bomb from the beginning, as evident from the Peter flashback/warpback.

It may be a little cliche that Peter is the good son and Nathan the bad son, and combined they overthrew their mothers attempt to destroy NY.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:57 AM   #107
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What a terribly dissapointing finale. That show was really good every single week until the season finale. I just can't beleive how bad that was. There were TONS of holes in that episode.

As some other people have already asked:

1. Why didn't Peter just fly away?
2. Why didn't they shoot Peter to stop him from exploding since he can regenerate anyways? (Unless that wouldn't stop him from exploding)
3. How does Sylar stop bullets from Parkmans gun yet he allows a fat little Japanese dude to casually walk up to him and stab in in the gut?

There were a few other things that didn't make sense. Overall I was thoroughly dissapointed in last night's show. They didn't even finish it with a real cliffhanger that made you really anticipate next season.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:09 AM   #108
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As some other people have already asked:
1. Why didn't Peter just fly away?

Considering that he already lost control over one power completely it seems logical that he couldn't control his other powers either.

2. Why didn't they shoot Peter to stop him from exploding since he can regenerate anyways? (Unless that wouldn't stop him from exploding)

To enable a more dramatic demonstration of Nathan's transformation from villain to hero?

3. How does Sylar stop bullets from Parkmans gun yet he allows a fat little Japanese dude to casually walk up to him and stab in in the gut?

Nikki must have broken his mojo with the parking meter.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:19 AM   #109
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my theory on Hiro Stabbing Sylar.. When Sylar and Ando in the loft Hiro was able to rescue him from Slyar.. Ando stated back in Japan that Hiro was Faster than Slyar and that was a big moment for Hiro.

So. Could he have simply stabbed Syler becaue he was "Faster". I think the Ando resuce scene set up that sequence..
Just my thoughts.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:47 AM   #110
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Ando better be back damnit, he's a great supporting character. Hopefully he comes back with a power of his own!
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:01 AM   #111
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Definitely a weak finale. I was pretty disappointed.

I was expecting a big fight between Sylar/Peter and Hiro. Something like that fight between them in the future episode. It would have been cool if everytime Sylar used a power on Peter, Peter absorbed it and used the same power back on Sylar. Then Hiro appeared and Peter used his telekentic powers to impale Sylar on Hiro's sword. That's kind of what I had envisioned in my head. Instead I get Sylar chokes Peter, Hiro appears, runs and stabs Sylar. Peter didn't even do anything aside from a few punches. Pretty lame in my books....
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:52 AM   #112
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Definitely a weak finale. I was pretty disappointed.

I was expecting a big fight between Sylar/Peter and Hiro. Something like that fight between them in the future episode. It would have been cool if everytime Sylar used a power on Peter, Peter absorbed it and used the same power back on Sylar. Then Hiro appeared and Peter used his telekentic powers to impale Sylar on Hiro's sword. That's kind of what I had envisioned in my head. Instead I get Sylar chokes Peter, Hiro appears, runs and stabs Sylar. Peter didn't even do anything aside from a few punches. Pretty lame in my books....

My thoughts exactly, hopefully next season they have the budget for big effects filled battles !
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:09 PM   #113
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Like the big showdown in Five Years Gone when we saw the light shining through the doorway? Go to the theater for bloated CGI crapfests.
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:29 PM   #114
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Like the big showdown in Five Years Gone when we saw the light shining through the doorway? Go to the theater for bloated CGI crapfests.
It doesn't have to be CGI heavy to be cool. The episode in the future was an example of that; it was a thousand times better than what I say last night. I don't expect big special effects every episode. But when its the season finale, and the lack of CGI effects the story in a negative way, then I have a problem with it.

A whole season of build-up, which was brilliantly done, leads to a choke-hold, a couple of punches, and a stabbing. Brilliant....
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:44 PM   #115
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It doesn't have to be CGI heavy to be cool. The episode in the future was an example of that; it was a thousand times better than what I say last night. I don't expect big special effects every episode. But when its the season finale, and the lack of CGI effects the story in a negative way, then I have a problem with it.

A whole season of build-up, which was brilliantly done, leads to a choke-hold, a couple of punches, and a stabbing. Brilliant....
It honestly reminded me of DS9 when they pretty much admitted they were running low on money one season after blowing all their money earlier on (Season 5 or 6?) and had to "make do" with what they could afford. "Quick! How can we end this with $50,000 in CGI budget left?! Masi Oka - hey you were with ILM right? How about a side gig?"

I was expecting a bit of a running battle vs the Mortal Kombat static showdown betwen Peter and Sylar which didn't have to be so expensive. While the past 3 episodes were so well written, this just had the feeling of something being hastily thrown together.

(I'll still watch next season of course)
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:52 PM   #116
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I assume Sylar didn't think he had the need to stop Hiro. I mean, Hiro choked the first time, and Sylar wouldn't have expected Hiro to be a) sword-trained suddenly and b) have the killer instinct to go through with it. So to see Hiro suddenly thrust a sword with such confidence and accuracy was pretty unexpected.
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I assume Sylar didn't think he had the need to stop Hiro. I mean, Hiro choked the first time, and Sylar wouldn't have expected Hiro to be a) sword-trained suddenly and b) have the killer instinct to go through with it. So to see Hiro suddenly thrust a sword with such confidence and accuracy was pretty unexpected.
He was running for about 3 seconds before hand! That's more than enough time for a guy like Sylar to react, who was a cold-blooded killer already.

Also, is it just me or did it seem like filler when Nikki beaned Sylar? From what I can recall, the two had no beef whatsoever, and had no idea the other existed. Why would she just hit him like that? Their only intention to go New York was to rescue Micah...?
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Old 05-22-2007, 03:43 PM   #118
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I think the writers painted themselves in to a bit of a corner with Sylar. I read somewhere on the 'net that their intention had been to more or less bring in a majority of new characters with each season - new stories, everything. I think their focus quickly changed to keeping the cast static more-or-less, which means the villian as well ... their intention at the beginning was probably to kill Sylar, but they figured they couldn't now. He is just an awesome villian.

Will be interested to see what happens from this finale. It wasn't bad ... but it wasn't GREAT like the previous few episodes had been.
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Old 05-22-2007, 04:06 PM   #119
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I just can't wait to see next seasons villian. I assume they will be the one Molly was foreshadowing when she was talking about not wanting to find the guy who could see her when she used her power! Wonder who that could be ....... (Mrs. Petrelli ??? )
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Old 05-22-2007, 06:31 PM   #120
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Sewer? Blood? Whaaa? I did indeed miss something there... I don't know how, but I missed that completely.
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