12-05-2023, 12:18 PM
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#12461
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
So what's wrong with Broberg? Other than they passed on Zegras, Caufield, Boldy, etc to draft him.
Is he crap or did they ruin him?
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What's wrong with him is that he's just not a great prospect.
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12-05-2023, 12:21 PM
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#12462
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Sandman
I think Broberg has the tools and talent to flourish if given a new lease on life. Huska has a history of working well with young D, so I would definitely take him. Holloway is in the exact same boat IMO.
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Three way deal with columbus. Oilers trade broberg and Campbell for merz, flames get broberg and this years first (plus maybe another pick?) for Lindholm
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12-05-2023, 12:25 PM
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#12463
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
The rental didn’t work
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You say that like it's a reason to not do it.
The year they got Toffoli, they one the division and made it to the second round for just the third time in 20 years. By any metric, it was one of the most successful seasons in team history.
You give that group a rental addition the quality of Tyler Toffoli.
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12-05-2023, 12:28 PM
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#12464
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First Line Centre
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The team I could see giving up on assets to get Broberg is Edmonton. Show old Kenny the scouting report and his first round pick might feel a little loose in the pocket.
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12-05-2023, 12:29 PM
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#12465
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Franchise Player
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I don't see how anyone could argue that Toffoli wasn't a good acquisition: a year and a half of solid play and production, and then they recouped most of the assets paid to acquire.
And in hindsight, it's even better:
Out: Heineman, Mesar, Volokhin, 2024 4th
In: Sharangovich, Suniev
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12-05-2023, 12:30 PM
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#12466
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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I bet they use Broberg with the value that he has left to help alleviate more futures being traded for a team to take on Campbell.
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12-05-2023, 12:34 PM
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#12467
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
I bet they use Broberg with the value that he has left to help alleviate more futures being traded for a team to take on Campbell.
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They will buy out campbell.
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12-05-2023, 12:37 PM
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#12468
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I don't see how anyone could argue that Toffoli wasn't a good acquisition: a year and a half of solid play and production, and then they recouped most of the assets paid to acquire.
And in hindsight, it's even better:
Out: Heineman, Mesar, Volokhin, 2024 4th
In: Sharangovich, Suniev
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They just missed the playoffs last season mostly due to poor goaltending but he was a big reason they were still contending for the playoffs with 34 goals and 73 points. The trade worked out pretty well in the end.
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12-05-2023, 12:43 PM
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#12469
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
I don’t blame individual players for the defensive nightmare that is the Oilers. Defence, to a certain degree, can be coached. Darryl turned Gudbranson into a $4M player, and he was pretty much waiver fodder before that.
I don’t know a lot about Broberg, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see him become an effective NHL’er after he gets free from the crapfest that is Edmonton.
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I don't disagree. I think the value of anyone who can't make the Oilers squad, which may have the worst depth in the league, is not terribly high though.
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12-05-2023, 12:47 PM
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#12470
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
Three way deal with columbus. Oilers trade broberg and Campbell for merz, flames get broberg and this years first (plus maybe another pick?) for Lindholm
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So Columbus trades a goalie that has a .911 sv percentage this year on awful team and they can get Lindholm along with AHL backup goalie Jack Campbell? Unless both first round picks are from Edmonton that is a terrible deal for Columbus.
Broberg is worth maybe a 3rd round pick so that deal is pretty awful for the Flames too.
Great trade for the Oilers though.
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12-05-2023, 01:01 PM
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#12471
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Renaud Lavoie of TVA is reporting that the Flames are in an uphill battle in trading Hanifin, as the only team he's interested in going to is Boston. This has apparently scared some other suitors off.
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12-05-2023, 01:05 PM
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#12472
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
Renaud Lavoie of TVA is reporting that the Flames are in an uphill battle in trading Hanifin, as the only team he's interested in going to is Boston. This has apparently scared some other suitors off.
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Alright, Poitras, 1st and 2nd. Get 'er done!
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12-05-2023, 01:08 PM
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#12473
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
Renaud Lavoie of TVA is reporting that the Flames are in an uphill battle in trading Hanifin, as the only team he's interested in going to is Boston. This has apparently scared some other suitors off.
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Why does it seem like every time we have a good asset to trade, they basically tank their value by pulling this kind of ####.
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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12-05-2023, 01:11 PM
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#12474
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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12-05-2023, 01:12 PM
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#12475
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#1 Goaltender
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Does Hanifin have a No Movement Clause?
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12-05-2023, 01:13 PM
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#12476
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick M.
Does Hanifin have a No Movement Clause?
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No. 8-team no-trade list. So there are 23 teams not on the list.
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12-05-2023, 01:13 PM
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#12477
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
Renaud Lavoie of TVA is reporting that the Flames are in an uphill battle in trading Hanifin, as the only team he's interested in going to is Boston. This has apparently scared some other suitors off.
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Renaud Lavoie is full of ####. 100%.
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12-05-2023, 01:15 PM
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#12478
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I don't know if I believe it. He must have seen what happened to Gaudreau. Not that long ago, Hanifin was willing to sign an extension with the Flames, so there must be other teams he would consider signing with. It would be kind of funny if he was going all in on Boston, but then ended up in Columbus.
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12-05-2023, 01:20 PM
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#12479
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick M.
Does Hanifin have a No Movement Clause?
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No, but if that report is true, it just means we can trade him somewhere else purely as a rental, which will diminish his value substantially, or we can trade him to Boston for whatever they might be willing to pay (marginally more than what we might be offered for Hanifin as a rental).
We basically have to hope that there's a team that thinks they can change his mind
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Originally Posted by snipetype
k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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12-05-2023, 01:20 PM
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#12480
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick M.
Does Hanifin have a No Movement Clause?
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No but I could see that scaring off several teams. The coyotes, for example, were interested in a sign-and-trade. The best way to maximize Hanifin’s value in trade would have been to have him signed long-term for the acquiring team. He can’t stop the flames from trading him but, if this is true that he only wants to sign with Boston, it will mean he is a pure rental for any team trying to acquire him (besides the bruins).
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