2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Sandman]

Yup, Yotes have a ton of nice pieces.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Poitros is already on their active roster and contributing, I’d be surprised to see them move him.

It seems like everytime a prospect of value is mentioned you say either they won't move him or you would be surprised if they did. A team is going to have to give to get.

[SuperMatt18]

They've been calling Poitras a clone of Patrice Bergeron, Boston isn't moving him.

[TheScorpion]

Lysell is a far more likely piece than Poitras

[stemit14]

It’s kind of a unique year as a flames fan. Because the rebuild feels likely with all the UFAs, losses don't feel as bad as most years and wins feel like a bonus. Even making the playoffs would feel like a big bonus for the fans this year. The team is working hard and playing a good system… beating lots of good teams while outplaying them as well. Lots of young guys are contributing and/or are knocking on the door to make the team.

For example… hoping Markstrom is ok but if he is not, it will be exciting for Wolf to get a chance with the big club. The flames could end up with 3 first round picks in this year’s draft and an A-level prospect or two by the TDL depending on what they get for Hanifin, Tanev and Lindholm.

There’s a slight chance Kyllington could return this year which would really help if they lose Hanifin and tanev. Having a core top 3 of Andersson, Weegar and Kyllington could be serviceable for the rest of the season.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It seems like everytime a prospect of value is mentioned you say either they won't move him or you would be surprised if they did. A team is going to have to give to get.

I don’t think you should be expecting to see a return that includes a young player that is actively contributing to a team’s pursuit of a cup.

Teams in these positions (going for it) don’t subtract from their active rosters to add to them (especially young players). They trade futures - and young active roster players aren’t futures.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I don’t think you should be expecting to see a return that includes a young player that is actively contributing to a team’s pursuit of a cup.

Teams in these positions (going for it) don’t subtract from their active rosters to add to them (especially young players). They trade futures - and young active roster players aren’t futures.

And contending teams right up against the cap don’t trade away guys making a difference on the second line at $870k for two more seasons after this for guys who will be making $7 mil+ over those seasons. It would be awful cap management.

[jg13]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1731914818972733841

RD vs LD but lots of smoke here it would seem.

[dino7c]

If I were Craig I wouldn't be limiting myself based on guys being "off the table"

oh he's off the table? alright we will trade player X to your rival thanks

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If I were Craig I wouldn't be limiting myself based on guys being "off the table"

oh he's off the table? alright we will trade player X to your rival thanks

Nobody knows who is on the table or off it except the management of each team. When there are multiple bidders for a good player, assets can appear on the table in a hurry.

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Sounds like, from Friedman, that Toronto needed Calgary to retain on both Tanev and Zadorov but wasn’t willing to buck up what Calgary was wanting to retain on both
And I bet Tanev was the higher priority for Toronto
If Klingberg is out for the year it seems like there is a deal to be made there

Toronto wants retention on both players but won't pay the premium for said retention, why does that not surprise me.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Every GM has trades they lose. My argument is he wins the vast majority of his deals. Do you disagree?

He also doesn't step up, see the Eichel non trade for example

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by jg13

https://twitter.com/user/status/1731914818972733841

RD vs LD but lots of smoke here it would seem.

If Guenther is on the table you have to listen.

Having both Coronato and Guenther would finally give the flames some true top six right wing options and for the long term.

[kyuss275]

With Arizona not having an arena deal in place and rumours of maybe moving to Salt Lake City, I’m not convinced hanifin would sign an extension with that team. If no extension comes with trade, the price IMO gets quite lower.

[Toonage]

If the extensions is the same 8 year, $60M deal he likely wasn't going to get as a free agent, and its an American market, I think he could be convinced.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Lots of trade talk, I like it.

Originally Posted by CFO

Buffalo and Lindholm are such a good fit on paper. They need a strong 2 way veteran center. They have a plethora of youth to move around.

Cozens (free up cap room), a 2nd.

Lindholm would absolutely be a good fit, however, don't expect Cozens to be the guy that would be on the move. You have to keep in mind Buffalo likely doesn't make a move until the offseason because a) they are not doing so hot (what else is new) in the Eastern playoff race, and b) Dahlin and Power's extensions have not kicked in. That is almost 20m right there.

Originally Posted by transplant99

Marek was talking to a Bruin reporter today, and that guy was pretty sure that the Bruins are very interested in Hanifin....something about since his draft day (didnt catch it all) and would also be looking at Lindholm.

Mentioned Debrusk and another as roster guys possible as part of any return.

I wouldn't mind moving Hanifin to Boston if we got the 2025 1st, Lohrei, and DeBrusk. Might be steep but we've got Arizona really pushing for a deal and DeBrusk doesn't have much value, but I think we could flip him at 50% to a contending team for a 2nd. Maybe even get Edmonton to overpay for the hometown kid.

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Sounds like, from Friedman, that Toronto needed Calgary to retain on both Tanev and Zadorov but wasn’t willing to buck up what Calgary was wanting to retain on both
And I bet Tanev was the higher priority for Toronto
If Klingberg is out for the year it seems like there is a deal to be made there

I don't like Treliving with the way he was trying to get us to retain on two players and likely not giving up much of value considering the assets they have. If they want Tanev the deal should be simple: Tanev (50%) for the 2024 1st. No need to complicate it.

Originally Posted by dammage79

ARZ has a what's what of goodies in their tickle trunk. If they wanted to move for some players they has an abundance of assets to move.

I'd move heaven and earth to get Simashev on the Flames roster list. Pipe dream though.

Dylan Guenther, Soderstrom would be a 2 for 1 package I'd love to see for Hanifin.

I'd honestly move mang for a pick of theirs too if the Yotes wanted to go full baller.

The Yotes are an interesting bunch... If they are that serious about acquiring Hanifin you have to REQUIRE Guenther or Geekie or just hang up the phone. I doubt they trade Simashev like you said, but we can still try and snag Guenther or Geekie. Another option... Hayton. Kind of struggling out of the gate, but if you can get a top 6 center with potential to explode on a different team, maybe a prospect/current borderline NHLer like Soderstrom who can fill in for one of the defenseman that left (I see him as a #4/5 later on), and a couple of 2nd round picks that's not a bad deal either... But I'd rather have Geekie or Guenther for starters, as I think they're still high on Hayton.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I don’t know if Toffoli was really a win. Toffoli had a career year but before that he was a disappointment and the wizard paid a chunk of changes for him.

He essentially paid a rental price for a year and a half of a player which included a break out season.

That's a win all day.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Bingo

He essentially paid a rental price for a year and a half of a player which included a break out season.

That's a win all day.

I'd also say the combination of what we paid for him and what we sold him for is pretty damn close. Free year and a half for a top line goal scorer on a sweetheart contract.

[Rollin22x]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

He also doesn't step up, see the Eichel non trade for example

Yeah. Let's judge someone on something YOU think should have or could have happened.
I can't believe Makar's not playing here!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I don’t know if Toffoli was really a win. Toffoli had a career year but before that he was a disappointment and the wizard paid a chunk of changes for him.

23 points in 37 games from Toffoli wasn’t a disappointment, it’s pretty much exactly what he’s done over his career.