2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I’d rather Bean than Boqvist. Or Cuelemans for the future.

Bean is a poorman’s Thomas Hickey, big pass on him for me.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Why would you want this as a Flames fan?

Vlasic was a top defensive d-man in the league in his prime for many years. It was a win win trade.

But really comparing the player to a specific draft pick is a bit silly. Like if you trade Tanev for a 4th rounder and that 4th rounder becomes the next Kucherov in 2029 it's not really a good trade, your GM made a poor move and your scouts made a good one. It makes more sense to compare the player being traded to the chance of the 2nd round pick hitting as an NHLer.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Bean is a poorman’s Thomas Hickey, big pass on him for me.

Hickey was better defensively and Bean is better offensively. Hickey averaged 21 points per 82 games. Bean, in his first 147 games, averages 26 (so far). And that’s not taking anything away from Hickey, he was quite good for a while there.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Why would you want this as a Flames fan?

Wasnt being serious. Although a 2nd for Vladar would be a good return if the Flames do decide to move a goalie to make room for Wolf. Not sure if Markstrom is movable or not.

[activeStick]

Okay, my bad, I couldn't tell. But really, Kipper, with Vernon, are the best goalies in franchise history. I would hope any deal if it happens with Vladar doesn't end up with Vladar being the other team's best franchise goalie.

I feel like the Flames are going to end up trading with the Canucks and the Flames will get another Rasmus-esque result. It's going to be hilarious! And even funnier is, if the Flames some how make the playoffs with this very imperfect roster and play the Canucks at some point, they will undoubtedly win that series, which will be even funnier!

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'll let you believe that if you want.

I'm sure the team is stoked about his 7 points in 23 games, and I'm sure he's stoked about averaging 13:00 minutes a night.

His underlying stats are great, but Beauvillier's were pretty good too and he was just traded for a 5th round pick. (Beauvillier also happened to have more points and was playing a higher TOI per game than Garland, so at the very least the coach thought he was just as big a part of that bottom 6).

I feel like if they got offered even a 3rd round pick for him he'd be gone, problem is teams likely want a sweetener back to take him with the 2 extra years on his deal.

All parties realized this was the only path forward for them, not some sudden change of heart because they all suddenly became happy with one another.

(And I say this as somebody who would easily take Garland for a 3rd if I had the cap space, even with 2 years left. I think he would actually work well with Huberdeau.)

Garland is pretty much in the same situation in Vancouver as Dube is in Calgary. Similar point production with similar ice time. The difference being that Garland has shown he can produce at a good pace with more ice time, but he also makes a lot more. For that matter, Dube could produce more with more ice time as well, but isn't as proven as Garland in that respect.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Raty for Tanev 1 for 1. Done.

LOL, no.

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

And here's the thing...if none of the Canucks 1st, Willander, Lekkerimaki, or Podkolzin are on the table in a trade right now then Conroy is 100% right to say no, and Vancouver is probably smart not to offer them.

If Canucks are just offering a 2025 2nd then why make that trade right now, there is no point.

Absolutely.

You want him? Call us when you're ready to pay. But you might want to get off your wallets, because he won't be here until the deadline, and more and more teams are interested.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Keep the team together until the deadline. Win as much as possible. Move all four on deadline day for picks, prospects and a couple of serviceable players. See if you can still hang on to a playoff spot.

In recent years, most significant deals get done weeks before deadline day. And if the Flames are in a playoff spot in mid-February, I just have a real tough time imagining them moving even 2 of the 3 UFA d-men. There will be talk of rewarding the players’ hard work, building a winning culture, etc. No way they go into the playoffs with a D-corps of:

Weegar-Andersson
Gilbert-DeSimone
Solovyov-Oesterle

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

I wonder if Columbus would entertain a Ruzicka or Dube for Boqvist swap.

We are starting to have an overabundance of forward depth and don't have much signed beyond this year on the backend.

That's a young kid who's only got into 9 games this year and could have a shot at running our PP.

As always it would depend on if another team would offer them more, especially due to his draft pedigree(8th OA). I also don't think that CBJ gave up on Boqvist as he was playing with Werenski most of the time.

Where would Dube/Ruzicka play on the Blue Jackets? I guess they could bump down Texier, but IMO so could Johnson.

[Sandman]

Not sure if it's been talked about yet, but Friedman says the Islanders are trying to aquire Noah Hanifin. Speculations about the return are Romanov, 1st, another young player. They will have problems integrating Hanifin, as their current D group has several long-term contracts. Who do you want from the Isles?

[DoubleK]

Do you think they'd move Dufour?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Not sure if it's been talked about yet, but Friedman says the Islanders are trying to aquire Noah Hanifin. Speculations about the return are Romanov, 1st, another young player. They will have problems integrating Hanifin, as their current D group has several long-term contracts. Who do you want from the Isles?

Wonder if they would add Holmstrom and the Flames add Dube

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Do you think they'd move Dufour?

Would prefer more talent, Dufour's upside is maybe AJ Green and we already have him

[Sandman]

I like both Holmstrom and Dufour. I think Dufour has a lot to prove, but I would put his ceiling higher. He’s still developing, and improving his skating, but he has the skill and shot to be a top-6 player in his prime IMO. I was a big fan of his in his draft year, and he put up 116pts in his final year of junior, and 7 points in 7 games in the WJC (I know, junior stats mean nothing).

They have a defenseman in Sweden that I quite like- Calle Odelius. He’s a bit in the mold of a TJ Brodie, being quick and a good two-way player…

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Not sure if it's been talked about yet, but Friedman says the Islanders are trying to aquire Noah Hanifin. Speculations about the return are Romanov, 1st, another young player. They will have problems integrating Hanifin, as their current D group has several long-term contracts. Who do you want from the Isles?

My impression is we could easily get a 1st. My other impression is that because the Islanders have moved so many 1sts recently, their prospects suck. Danny Nelson sounds okay. I’d want a 1st + Nelson + Romanov if the framework is a 1st + another younger player + Romanov. But I’d kinda prefer the Flames dealt with another team unless no one else is offering a 1st or something? I think the
Flames should be able to get a haul for Hanifin at the deadline if they remain a playoff bubble team.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Nelson

My impression is we could easily get a 1st. My other impression is that because the Islanders have moved so many 1sts recently, their prospects suck. Danny Nelson sounds okay. I’d want a 1st + Nelson + Romanov if the framework is a 1st + another younger player + Romanov. But I’d kinda prefer the Flames dealt with another team unless no one else is offering a 1st or something? I think the
Flames should be able to get a haul for Hanifin at the deadline if they remain a playoff bubble team.

You don’t think a 1st + Nelson + Romanov is a haul?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Maybe someone knows better than me, is Romanov a two-way D or more of a shutdown guy? Would he be a good D partner for Poirier? If you're looking forward to future seasons, Poirier and Romanov are likely the middle pairing with Z and Tanev gone.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

In recent years, most significant deals get done weeks before deadline day. And if the Flames are in a playoff spot in mid-February, I just have a real tough time imagining them moving even 2 of the 3 UFA d-men. There will be talk of rewarding the players’ hard work, building a winning culture, etc. No way they go into the playoffs with a D-corps of:

Weegar-Andersson
Gilbert-DeSimone
Solovyov-Oesterle

If I had to guess what the flames would do if in playoff spot near deadline I would think it would look like this:

Full court press to persuade hanifin to sign that $7.5 per contract
Trade lindholm
Keep tanev and zadorov as their own rentals

Not saying this is what I would do , it’s what I think flames would do. Yes conroy said in a presser that they wouldn’t let valuable players go to ufa but I’ll believe it when I see it. Also does zadorov and maybe tanev even qualify as “ most valuable players”?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

If I had to guess what the flames would do if in playoff spot near deadline I would think it would look like this:

Full court press to persuade hanifin to sign that $7.5 per contract
Trade lindholm
Keep tanev and zadorov as their own rentals

Not saying this is what I would do , it’s what I think flames would do. Yes conroy said in a presser that they wouldn’t let valuable players go to ufa but I’ll believe it when I see it. Also does zadorov and maybe tanev even qualify as “ most valuable players”?

While they may try and sign some of these guys I can tell you it is a very safe bet that anyone not signing an extension will be dealt regardless of being in a playoff spot or not. Conroy knows there is a bigger picture here and this team is not a SC contender.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

You don’t think a 1st + Nelson + Romanov is a haul?

I don’t know? Nelson apparently projects as a middle of the lineup player. Maybe I’m underrating Romanov?