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Old 11-29-2023, 10:09 AM   #11901
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I'd take Robertson in a heartbeat...he's always looked good when healthy, he just hasn't been able to stay healthy. Even right now he has 5 points in 9 NHL games this season.

Also wonder if Flames would have any interest in William Villeneuve, he's been pretty good at the AHL level and they would have seen him a lot as he was Poirier's d-partner in Saint John.
Byron Bader had Nick Robertson projecting surprisingly similarly to Jarome Iginla.
If the two can be compared at all, that makes me want Nick quite a bit.

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Old 11-29-2023, 10:12 AM   #11902
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Lindholm is a better producer than Patches was at the time of the trade. In Montreal before he got traded his best season was 67 points and the year he got traded he was 37 points in 64 games.
Way better IMO.
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Old 11-29-2023, 10:15 AM   #11903
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But Jack Eichel was under contract for multiple seasons, 24 years old, 2nd overall pick with high upside. That's much different than a UFA Elias Lindholm.
And having a neck surgery which has never been done in the NHL before, that had to affect his value.
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Conroy needs to take Treliving to the cleaners, doesn't matter if it's picks or prospects or roster players. That's my only requirement.
Conroy knows more than anyone in this league just how highly Brad values depth on defense, let alone the guys he brought here into Calgary. I just can't imagine a deal between these two where Conroy doesn't win it on paper. He better not be doing his "mentor" any favors.
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Old 11-29-2023, 10:30 AM   #11905
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Byron Bader had Nick Robertson projecting surprisingly similarly to Jarome Iginla.
If the two can be compared at all, that makes me want Nick quite a bit.

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Size difference is huge tho. 5’9 vs 6’1 and a huge difference in weight. Iginla was NHL dominant as a power forward, so even without points he could impact a game. Robertson looks to have a lot of skill but doesn’t have the same physical tools to impact the game
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Old 11-29-2023, 10:44 AM   #11906
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It's funny how big Jason is. Mom must have liked him better and given him the better food.
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Lindholm, Hanifin, Zadorov and Tanev 1-4

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Old 11-29-2023, 11:05 AM   #11908
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Lindholm, Hanifin, Zadorov and Tanev 1-4

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Interesting on market value comments. 6.9mil and 7.3mil seem pretty fair for Hanifin and Lindholm. Zero desire to have Lindholm on a 9.3million dollar contract.
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Old 11-29-2023, 11:09 AM   #11909
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I'd take fraser minten. They also have a 1st, but I don't think they want to trade it.
I don't see the hype in Minten, but I'll admit I haven't really looked into him.

I'd rather take the 1st, but honestly we should be able to land both of them if we are giving up a quality defenseman back.
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Old 11-29-2023, 11:31 AM   #11910
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Oh joy

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The Flames have been nothing but consistent in this approach, so if it's true it really shouldn't surprise any of us.

The Flames have been and I imagine always will be focused on the now. It wouldn't surprise me to see them walk these players to free agency at the end of the day, because it was "the right move for the Calgary Flames".
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Keep the team together until the deadline. Win as much as possible. Move all four on deadline day for picks, prospects and a couple of serviceable players. See if you can still hang on to a playoff spot.
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The Flames have been nothing but consistent in this approach, so if it's true it really shouldn't surprise any of us.

The Flames have been and I imagine always will be focused on the now. It wouldn't surprise me to see them walk these players to free agency at the end of the day, because it was "the right move for the Calgary Flames".
Could also just be a negotiating tactic?
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I'm not too annoyed by this. I'm sure if the price was right (say a first for either) they would have no problem moving either of these two. I'm glad they aren't rushing it just to make a move. With Gio going down yesterday it shows that the value on Dmen is going up with injuries.
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To me that reads more like "Meet the price and then we will talk, we are in no rush to move them"

And that should probably be the right approach. Unless your ask is met then you are in no desperation to make a move right now.
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The Flames have been nothing but consistent in this approach, so if it's true it really shouldn't surprise any of us.

The Flames have been and I imagine always will be focused on the now. It wouldn't surprise me to see them walk these players to free agency at the end of the day, because it was "the right move for the Calgary Flames".
I don’t read into anything coming out of Vancouver regarding our players. We heard earlier that the Flames had no interest In Beauvillier or Garland when talking trade with the Canucks. The whole rhetoric around not wanting to trade in the division is Vancouver spin in my opinion. Step up and make a real offer or continue to be rebuffed.
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Old 11-29-2023, 11:46 AM   #11917
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I'm not too annoyed by this. I'm sure if the price was right (say a first for either) they would have no problem moving either of these two. I'm glad they aren't rushing it just to make a move. With Gio going down yesterday it shows that the value on Dmen is going up with injuries.
Agreed. The Flames seeming desperate to trade players hurts their value. I have no doubt that other GMs are still testing Conroy with lowball offers. He needs to stand his ground a little to improve the market values.
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Old 11-29-2023, 11:49 AM   #11918
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I don’t read into anything coming out of Vancouver regarding our players. We heard earlier that the Flames had no interest In Beauvillier or Garland when talking trade with the Canucks. The whole rhetoric around not wanting to trade in the division is Vancouver spin in my opinion. Step up and make a real offer or continue to be rebuffed.
Yeah, Vancouver is interesting now that they've dropped Beavullier. They now have the cap space to acquire Tanev or Zadorov without the need to move a contract back to us.

So yeah, offer something sweet.

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I'm not too annoyed by this. I'm sure if the price was right (say a first for either) they would have no problem moving either of these two. I'm glad they aren't rushing it just to make a move. With Gio going down yesterday it shows that the value on Dmen is going up with injuries.
So long as Z and Tanev (and Hanifin and Lindy) stay healthy, then yeah - watching the market for those players grow as we get closer to the deadline is definitely the play. I hope we get to see some Glencross-style moves where we sell regardless of our position in the standings. Especially because Coronato and Pelletier will likely be on the roster come deadline time. If Poirier gets healthy and Solo can be recalled? That's some prime development time for them to come up and play meaningful hockey in a legit playoff race.

With Detroit signing Kane...I wonder if they don't start looking at Lindy? Larkin-Lindholm is a hell of a 1-2, and Detroit has a number of good young defencemen prospects.

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Old 11-29-2023, 11:49 AM   #11919
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So who do we want from the Canucks that would realistically be the return for a player like Zadorov or Tanev? We can forget about Lekkerimaki or Willander. Would Aatu Raty be a possibility? Doubt it.
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