Israel declares war on Hamas

[WCW Nitro]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ce-2023-11-21/

So, as part of the deal some Palestinian children will be released from Israeli prisons, wonder how many the Israelis are holding. Most moral army.

[Pointman]

Missile alert in Israel city Sderot already.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

So, as part of the deal some Palestinian children will be released from Israeli prisons, wonder how many the Israelis are holding. Most moral army.

Human beings are allowed to be taken into jail for serious crimes from age 14-16 in most countries. Yet considered "children" until 18. Those are not 5 years old babies, unlike Hamas hostages. Those are actual babies.

[Pointman]

And another air alert in Kfar Aza a minute after I posted. Makes me wonder if Israel will ignore it as long, as hostages are being released.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

So, as part of the deal some Palestinian children will be released from Israeli prisons, wonder how many the Israelis are holding. Most moral army.

You realize there are children in Canadian Jails right? it's considered both a human right and positive for rehabilitation, we have mother and child units where women can have their kids until the age of 5, in fact reading the news release it's pretty clear these arer the children of the women held as prisoners, I'm guessing if they were forced from their mothers and taken into Israeli foster care you'd prefer that?

[WCW Nitro]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

You realize there are children in Canadian Jails right? it's considered both a human right and positive for rehabilitation, we have mother and child units where women can have their kids until the age of 5, in fact reading the news release it's pretty clear these arer the children of the women held as prisoners, I'm guessing if they were forced from their mothers and taken into Israeli foster care you'd prefer that?

Except that Israel arrests many kids without charge or for crimes like throwing rocks, as human rights groups have said.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Except that Israel arrests many kids without charge or for crimes like throwing rocks, as human rights groups have said.

Shhhh, there are reports of air raid sirens going off.

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Shhhh, there are reports of air raid sirens going off.

He said from the comfort of his safe place far away from the conflict.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Being Pointman means waiting a week or so to post again after advocating for widespread killing.

[hah]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Being Pointman means waiting a week or so to post again after advocating for widespread killing.

Maybe Pointman is finding it difficult to post frequently as he is currently living with an enemy that wishes to obliterate religion and the country. This situation may have forced him to prioritize his personal safety and well-being over his online presence.


I am writing this from Calgary, where I am privileged to live in a safe and comfortable environment.



"The People of Israel Live"

[WCW Nitro]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Shhhh, there are reports of air raid sirens going off.

Maybe it's for the two machine guns which they found in the "command and control" headquarters under the hospital, which of course Israeli officials now admit that Israel built the bunkers when they were running Gaza.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Maybe it's for the two machine guns which they found in the "command and control" headquarters under the hospital, which of course Israeli officials now admit that Israel built the bunkers when they were running Gaza.

Does not fit the established narrative that the kind and benevolent Israel government would ever do something so slimy and underhanded as target a location where they knew there were tunnels and bunkers because they built them. This is smelling more and more like something cooked up by Israel's version of Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld. Amazing more people aren't paying attention and seeing through this.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by hah

Maybe Pointman is finding it difficult to post frequently as he is currently living with an enemy that wishes to obliterate religion and the country. This situation may have forced him to prioritize his personal safety and well-being over his online presence.


I am writing this from Calgary, where I am privileged to live in a safe and comfortable environment.



"The People of Israel Live"

Which group is that? The IDF?

I didn't realize Pointman lived in Gaza, though.

[Language]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Except that Israel arrests many kids without charge or for crimes like throwing rocks, as human rights groups have said.

Some of that may be true, but that is a very generous take.

The Israelis being released are innocent women and children who are being held by terrorists.

The Palestinians who will be released are those that tried to murder Israelis.

There is no comparison here or moral equivalency.

Unfortunately to Israel’s detriment, Yahya Sinwar was one of the terrorists that got released in the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange many years ago (1 soldier for 1,026 Palestinian prisoners), and he orchestrated the Oct 7th attacks.

It’s entirely possible we’re looking back in the future at the exact thing happening again. But unfortunately Israel is at fault for even allowing their guard to be down to have so many hostages taken in the first place. Truly a f*** up on an infinite scale.


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[WCW Nitro]

Israeli intelligence minister saying the world should support a plan to displace ALL Palestinians living in Gaza. But I am sure some will continue to say this is about Hamas.

https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-773713

We must try something new, and we call on the international community to help make it a reality.
It could be a win-win solution: a win for those civilians of Gaza who seek a better life and a win for Israel after this devastating tragedy.

Instead of funneling money to rebuild Gaza or to the failed UNRWA, the international community can assist in the costs of resettlement, helping the people of Gaza build new lives in their new host countries.

Israeli communities in the Gaza border area and the South could then return to their homes and communities and live in safety and security. They should not have to continue living with the constant threat of rocket attacks and murderous infiltrations.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Israeli intelligence minister saying the world should support a plan to displace ALL Palestinians living in Gaza. But I am sure some will continue to say this is about Hamas.

https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-773713

We must try something new, and we call on the international community to help make it a reality.
It could be a win-win solution: a win for those civilians of Gaza who seek a better life and a win for Israel after this devastating tragedy.

Instead of funneling money to rebuild Gaza or to the failed UNRWA, the international community can assist in the costs of resettlement, helping the people of Gaza build new lives in their new host countries.

Israeli communities in the Gaza border area and the South could then return to their homes and communities and live in safety and security. They should not have to continue living with the constant threat of rocket attacks and murderous infiltrations.

Everyone, including the US have dismissed this idea. Jordan and Egypt have even openly stated that forcing Palestinians in either The Sinai or Jordan would be considered an act of war and will be taken care of militarily.

Not sure why they keep trying to peddle this "solution" as it's a No Go from the international community.

[Language]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Everyone, including the US have dismissed this idea. Jordan and Egypt have even openly stated that forcing Palestinians in either The Sinai or Jordan would be considered an act of war and will be taken care of militarily.

Not sure why they keep trying to peddle this "solution" as it's a No Go from the international community.

I’m an ardent Israeli supporter, but there is no doubt there are fringe and extreme elements in the Israeli government. This is no different than in any other government.

Posting this and using it as a pegboard to claim this is an overwhelming view would be like me saying all Palestinians are terrorists just like Hamas.

I wouldn’t necessarily take some of these comments as a sign that this is some overwhelming viewpoint shared by many. As a reminder, prior to Oct 7th, the majority of Israeli citizens still favored a two-state solution.


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[Bagor]

Originally Posted by hah

Maybe Pointman is finding it difficult to post frequently as he is currently living with an enemy that wishes to obliterate religion and the country. This situation may have forced him to prioritize his personal safety and well-being over his online presence.

Or maybe he decided to slink off for a while in the hope that people would forget the pretty much united disgust at his repulsive, warped, sick bloodlust desire to slaughter innocent women and infants?

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Except that Israel arrests many kids without charge or for crimes like throwing rocks, as human rights groups have said.

I believe they've already said that human rights groups such as Human Rights Watch, cannot be trusted. Also included in this are other international humanitarian organizations like the UN and The Red Cross.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Israeli intelligence minister saying the world should support a plan to displace ALL Palestinians living in Gaza. But I am sure some will continue to say this is about Hamas.

https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-773713

We must try something new, and we call on the international community to help make it a reality.
It could be a win-win solution: a win for those civilians of Gaza who seek a better life and a win for Israel after this devastating tragedy.

Instead of funneling money to rebuild Gaza or to the failed UNRWA, the international community can assist in the costs of resettlement, helping the people of Gaza build new lives in their new host countries.

Israeli communities in the Gaza border area and the South could then return to their homes and communities and live in safety and security. They should not have to continue living with the constant threat of rocket attacks and murderous infiltrations.

I'm guessing you didn't read his full statement, what he has suggested is without a doubt the best plan for Gazan's, assuming your concern is for individual people rather than sacrificing the population in order to prove some abstract unobtainable political point at the expense of individuals, he isnt suggesting forcing Gazans to emigrate he is saying those that want too should be given every possible help as Gaza is massively over populated