2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Selling high is fine, I just think that COL proposal isn't reflective of the Flames selling high on Kadri.

That's what you'd expect it to look like if they were dealing Kadri while he was still struggling.

I think futures need to be tacked on if we're eating two of their disposable contracts in return.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by shutout

Everything is based on right now?

Two weeks ago people were thinking Kadri was untradeable unless multiple picks went with him and pitchforks were out to find a solution to dump him.

Now after a few good games he is an essential savior for the youth movement and we need to keep him.

For how long? Until this hot streak stops and his desire is questioned?


Also have to wonder if the report that he might not want to stay for a rebuild was from his agent and has a high degree of truth and that the Flames may need to look for ways to trade him.

Is it just a streak though? Outside of a few weeks to end last season and a handful of games this season, I feel like Kadri has played up to expectations.

I didn't think he was ever going to be a ppg center here, but I did expect a play driving second line center with edge and I feel like that's exactly what we're getting. He earned that All Star nod last season with his great first half too.

I'm as critical as anyone on Brad Treliving, but Kadri was not a bad target. Trading the 1st to move Monahan's contract without a doubt sucks, but Kadri's been more good then bad and I think GMs would be happy to add him to their team with some retention. If the Flames can nab a 1st back + some extra pieces, the acquisition could be relatively salvageable.

[868904]

Originally Posted by MrMike

If we have to give Markstrom to someone, let it be to make the division tougher on Edmonton and Vancouver.

Markstrom to the Kings? Oilers say “bring it on”.

[Flamesfan05]

Hell no, Kadri was a terrible gamble by the wizard
One last all in move on a bad hand before he jumped ship

Dude is a bad fit on a rebuilding team. He is 33 and still have contract for 5 more years?
On top of that we gave up a good pick
There is nothing good about Kadri moving forward.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by 868904

Markstrom to the Kings? Oilers say “bring it on”.

Oilers are more like Bring it on 2.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I dunno, he seems to be bringing the kids along very nicely for us.

Just because we're bitter about the 1st with Monahan doesn't mean we should discount the current positives he's bringing..

I feel fine about Kadri for the next 2 years, maybe 3. Beyond that? Yeah it doesn't look good. If he can't keep up his cap hit will be a hindrance.

But it may not matter since he doesn't want to be part of an official rebuild/retool.

[memphusk]

Current positives is what, 5 or 6 games? What happens when #### goes south again?

[Poe969]

If a team wants Kadri, and will actually give up value for him, make it happen! Sure he's playing well now, but he won't forever and he won't want to be around for a rebuild.

Trade everyone at this point.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

As long as he's surrounded with youthful enthusiasm I don't see him sinking back into his apathetic play of late last year/early this year.

He looks like he wants to help keep this team from the teardown he doesn't want to be a part of.

If you can swing a trade that's a positive asset management move, sure do it.

[traptor]

Girard would be a decent value piece back.

He's only 25 and has been a top 4 D on a cup winner and consistent contender.

[Vinny01]

It is pretty crazy how hockey fans are swayed by such small sample sizes. It works both ways. The Kadri signing thread was pinned at the top of the page for how much of a disaster it was less than 3 weeks ago. A nice streak and now we forget he is 33 signed for 5 more years at $7M?

Similar I saw some absolute brutal takes on twitter how Lindholm was worth a 2nd because he was going through a 10 game slump. Obviously he is still worth a 1st+ and 10 down games not erase the last 5 years of top line production.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by traptor

Girard would be a decent value piece back.

He's only 25 and has been a top 4 D on a cup winner and consistent contender.

It’s actually a decent trade if looking to retool/rebuild and get rid of the last years of Kadris contract. It looks like we will be losing 3 key Dmen this year and will need some form of replacement.

[TheScorpion]

I'm starting to wonder whether the Flames might look to eventually dangle Duehr as a potential Barclay Goodrow-like add for a team. Cheap cap hit, UFA after next year, and doesn't seem to have a place under Huska. Regular healthy scratch and barely playing when he's in.

He'll be 26 this month and he isn't a long-term piece. Definitely isn't as established as Goodrow was but I could see him having a bit of value. (I'm not convinced he's an NHLer, but I'm sure he has his defenders around the league).

[Harry Lime]

It will be interesting to see what the fallout from trading the pending ufas is going to be. I could see the result being a surplus of forwards, and having to move someone like duehr or even mangiapane to make room.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Hell no, Kadri was a terrible gamble by the wizard
One last all in move on a bad hand before he jumped ship

Dude is a bad fit on a rebuilding team. He is 33 and still have contract for 5 more years?
On top of that we gave up a good pick
There is nothing good about Kadri moving forward.

What does the pick have to do with anything now?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by MrMike

It’s actually a decent trade if looking to retool/rebuild and get rid of the last years of Kadris contract. It looks like we will be losing 3 key Dmen this year and will need some form of replacement.

I’d do that swap in a second.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Selling high is fine, I just think that COL proposal isn't reflective of the Flames selling high on Kadri.

That's what you'd expect it to look like if they were dealing Kadri while he was still struggling.

I think futures need to be tacked on if we're eating two of their disposable contracts in return.

Getting anything in return that doesn’t require retaining money is selling high.

If there’s a market, you gotta explore it.

[Vinny01]

That proposed deal by Duha makes a ton of sense if the Flames plan a rebuild/retool. They are poised to move Hanifin, Tanev, Zadorov so getting Girard would fill a need for a longer term second pair D. Johansen would be another guy who could have a look with Huberdeau and maybe if they both got some strong offensive minutes they could gel. The commitment to him is short so the Flames will have a chance to flip him next year as a rental.

The best thing for the Flames though would be getting rid of the next 5 years of the Kadri contract. Not being locked into that deal will be helpful when they hopefully have some high end youngsters coming off ELC that need long term big money extensions

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

That proposed deal by Duha makes a ton of sense if the Flames plan a rebuild/retool. They are poised to move Hanifin, Tanev, Zadorov so getting Girard would fill a need for a longer term second pair D. Johansen would be another guy who could have a look with Huberdeau and maybe if they both got some strong offensive minutes they could gel. The commitment to him is short so the Flames will have a chance to flip him next year as a rental.

The best thing for the Flames though would be getting rid of the next 5 years of the Kadri contract. Not being locked into that deal will be helpful when they hopefully have some high end youngsters coming off ELC that need long term big money extensions

Johansen is a spent force, one good year in the last 4 and it does not look like this year will be any different. That being said I would still probably do the deal given what Kadri will likely be in the final 2-3 years of that deal when hopefully the Flames are starting to compete again.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by traptor

Girard would be a decent value piece back.

He's only 25 and has been a top 4 D on a cup winner and consistent contender.

He'll basically take Hanifin's spot on the roster on lower term and avg.

He's a downgrade, but if we trade all our UFAs it won't matter much.