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Old 11-15-2023, 06:53 PM   #10901
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As far as picks vs prospects… In general, I would take any player picked in the first 20 picks of the 2023 draft in place of a first round pick in 2024. That’s a big ask from any team so it’s not likely. If those players are not available then prioritize first round picks.

Then let your scouts swing for the fences in the draft with the picks. Even if they are high risk/high reward players… don’t worry about size or two-way game as the biggest priority… target high-end offensive skill as the biggest priority… with forwards and defensemen as well.

Never a fan of drafting guys that project to be 3rd line centres… the bottom half of the line up can be built through trades/free agency if necessary. The draft is the place to get dynamic game breakers.


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Old 11-15-2023, 07:17 PM   #10902
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What are your thoughts on him? He plays with a lot of pace and can fly out there. To get waived by CBJ though, what's his deal?
I think you said it all here. He’s got a great skill set, instincts, and can play a moderately good two-way game when he’s on. I think his intensity wanes at times, and for my money- he doesn’t put up enough offense for an offensive player. Who knows though, the coach there had problems with quite a few young Jackets players this season. Perhaps he could use a change.
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Old 11-15-2023, 07:21 PM   #10903
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If Conroy pulled this off I would get a back tattoo of him.
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Old 11-15-2023, 07:46 PM   #10904
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I am not sure if it was mentioned, but rumour has it that the Canucks are talking to Phil Kessel.


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Old 11-15-2023, 07:56 PM   #10905
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I am not sure if it was mentioned, but rumour has it that the Canucks are talking to Phil Kessel.





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Dhaliwal was talking about this today too. They have apparently been talking to him since the summer. Much like Bear, no cap room.

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Old 11-15-2023, 10:39 PM   #10906
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I am not sure if it was mentioned, but rumour has it that the Canucks are talking to Phil Kessel.


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That would be a steal for the Flame IMO. Necas and Jarvis are already better than most, if not all of the forwards in our top 6.
I don't know what those guys are smoking, but I want some of it. Now.
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Old 11-16-2023, 04:33 PM   #10908
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Its so demoralizing that were going to lose a pick to Montreal heading into a rebuild.
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Old 11-16-2023, 04:36 PM   #10909
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Its so demoralizing that were going to lose a pick to Montreal heading into a rebuild.
It was an extra pick. A surplus pick. The only thing it hurts is the outlook on the Huberdeau-Tkachuk trade (and it was already a landslide loss to begin with).

They've lost nothing. They have 1sts every year moving forward.

And they'll acquire more before the draft.
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It was an extra pick. A surplus pick. The only thing it hurts is the outlook on the Huberdeau-Tkachuk trade (and it was already a landslide loss to begin with).

They've lost nothing. They have 1sts every year moving forward.

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What a terrible way to look at that
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What a terrible way to look at that
We can just continue to hate on Treliving for putting this team in the horrible position they are in. I am fine with that.
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Old 11-16-2023, 05:07 PM   #10912
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What a terrible way to look at that
What's terrible about it? It remains a fact that the Flames have as many first-round picks now as they had before the Tkachuk and Monahan trades.
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Old 11-16-2023, 05:10 PM   #10913
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Dhaliwal was talking about this today too. They have apparently been talking to him since the summer. Much like Bear, no cap room.

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Old 11-16-2023, 05:11 PM   #10914
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What's terrible about it? It remains a fact that the Flames have as many first-round picks now as they had before the Tkachuk and Monahan trades.
Not only that, but at the time of the trade the Flames weren't expected to be in the situation they are currently in. The summer of Brad had most people thinking that the Flames lost two stars but retooled to keep their window open.
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Old 11-16-2023, 05:38 PM   #10915
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What a terrible way to look at that
It’s done, what other way is there to look at it. I’m just on the panthers bandwagon
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What a terrible way to look at that
As opposed to what? Looking for reasons to be depressed about past moves we can do nothing about now?

Crying over spilled milk is counterproductive.
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What's terrible about it? It remains a fact that the Flames have as many first-round picks now as they had before the Tkachuk and Monahan trades.
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As opposed to what? Looking for reasons to be depressed about past moves we can do nothing about now?

Crying over spilled milk is counterproductive.
First of all surplus is a terrible word to describe it, that's not how picks work. We traded a valuable piece and got that 1st in return for it, then utterly wasted it. No, crying over spilled milk doesn't do anything, but pretending it's okay is pretty silly too.
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:11 PM   #10919
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But vladar isn’t playing…oh, the other guy maybe
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:17 PM   #10920
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If we have to give Markstrom to someone, let it be to make the division tougher on Edmonton and Vancouver.
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