At this point now it is completely on Huberdeau. He needs to find a way to elevate his game and start living up to that contract (even if it buys him a trade out of this environment). This has to be a partnership and the Flames have shown a ton of goodwill in his favour.
The point I’m making is that he isn’t paid to be awful or even mediocre. The attacks against his play are warranted due to his stature and how he fits into the salary cap structure. It may be unfair given where his confidence is but the league is a business and he needs to perform (even if it’s just for his own sake out of here)
I agree with pretty much everything you said, especially that he has to find a way to get through this. We (fans + club) are stuck with him, as he is with us, given the terms of the contract.
I never said that he should not be criticized or that the criticism is unfair--rather that it is pretty hard to even imagine having everything in your world suddenly make no sense.
Oh, and that the race to post snark every time Huberdeau touches the puck is rather pathetic.
Anyways, back to lurking.
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Theoretically, if Huberdeau was a UFA tomorrow, what kind of contract do you think he could demand?? He could have the argument that it was a poor fit in Calgary and he needs a different system. Do you think a team would bite at $5M/yr??
I only ask because he may want to consider terminating his contract (mutually) with the Flames. Yes he walks away from $70M, but he already has millions and could likely recoup some of this for the remainder of his career elsewhere (lets assume $20M).
Theoretically, if Huberdeau was a UFA tomorrow, what kind of contract do you think he could demand?? He could have the argument that it was a poor fit in Calgary and he needs a different system. Do you think a team would bite at $5M/yr??
I only ask because he may want to consider terminating his contract (mutually) with the Flames. Yes he walks away from $70M, but he already has millions and could likely recoup some of this for the remainder of his career elsewhere (lets assume $20M).
His happiness and sanity is worth something!
I've thought about this too. What if he (I know, not going to happen) asked to have his contract terminated so he could move on as a UFA.
I imagine he'd sign for a year (or the remainder of this one) at a bargain price to get his game back in order elsewhere. Pick a good spot, find what he'd figure is the right fit and then see if he could cash in this summer, albeit at a much lower rate and probably less term. Basically he'd sacrifice millions to be happier but he already has (or will already have) close to $10M for this year. He's set for life.
He will just wait and get bought out at some point if things continue and then head back down to Florida, drive his Lambo and live the dream. Players like him are the argument against guaranteed contracts.
Theoretically, if Huberdeau was a UFA tomorrow, what kind of contract do you think he could demand?? He could have the argument that it was a poor fit in Calgary and he needs a different system. Do you think a team would bite at $5M/yr??
I only ask because he may want to consider terminating his contract (mutually) with the Flames. Yes he walks away from $70M, but he already has millions and could likely recoup some of this for the remainder of his career elsewhere (lets assume $20M).
His happiness and sanity is worth something!
It is fantasy land to think he would ever terminate a contract that has signing bonuses of 9.5m in 2027, 2029, and 2030. That is year 4, 5, and 7 of his 8-year extension in Calgary. Good luck convincing him to do that.
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Theoretically, if Huberdeau was a UFA tomorrow, what kind of contract do you think he could demand?? He could have the argument that it was a poor fit in Calgary and he needs a different system. Do you think a team would bite at $5M/yr??
What does he bring right now that makes him a 5 million dollar player? Doesn't elevate anyone, rather brings down everyone's game who he plays with. Bad passing and turnovers all the time. He's not a threat offensively at all.
Maybe a GM with free cap space would bite if it's a one year deal worth five million just based on his historical production and to see if he can bounce back. But it would be crazy to offer him multiple years and bet on it. Why would anyone voluntarily take that risk at this point.
Acquiring Huberdeau, even for all of our worst cap dump would kill our rebuild.
His contract run till one year after Suzuki ones end.
He would handicap our cap for ~15% and he is a declining assets. He is not going back to 118 points. He is trending downhill.
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Matthew Tkachuk wanting out of Calgary really screwed the Flames.
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The Flames in town also means that their circus implicating Jonathan Huberdeau will be front and center as a low hanging fruit imbroglio to be gobbled up by local media.
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As a rush-based player I could actually see a fit with huberdeau but that contract is never going to be a fit even with retention
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They got Huberdeau a guy that had 110 points 2 seasons ago, they play a completely different style of hockey, maybe if they tried plays from when he played in Florida they might be doing better. I hope they #### the bed even worse next year
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At least there's just 8 years to go on his contract
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Dube is way better than Huberdeau lol
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Losing to Calgary this year is like losing to San Jose. Vancouver been much better
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Remember in the Canuck gdt someone said the nucks were weak and overachievers, we would walk over them? Get ready for another pounding tonight (that’s what she said )
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Can the habs beat someone in regulation for once?
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If we lose, what does that make us?
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Litter?
“Yer a Winger Matty”
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MM does the dumbest #### I have ever seen a defenseman do and then 5 minutes later he walks around 5 players and looks like McDavid.
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Matheson... theres no reasons for this lmao.
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It's getting ridiculous that every Matheson shift is an adventure
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You must not be on the dating app scene. Bitches fkn love adventures.
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That was dumb trying to finesse it behind the net.
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matheson just can't think as fast as he moves. It's gotta be frustrating for him, too.
An old nemesis says hello
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1-0 Calgary. Kadri. *sigh*
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Thanks Kadri, ya dumbass.
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And here we goooooooooooooooooooo
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Bad bad goal
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Duh... f***.
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One of those games that the Habs will give away.
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Oooof
I wonder if that kills the Habs momentum and mindset.
I don't think that caught Xhekaj's stick
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Josh Anderson is truly the Rene Bourque of all times
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What the f*** is wrong with Cole?
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Anderson has chemistry with nobody. It's amazing.
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Connor McAnderson showing his super puck handling skillz
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He literally shot it right into Markstroms glove. Markstrom did the theatrical windmill making it look like some kind of robbery lol
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Anderson has probably run out of superstitions to rid him of the curse so might I suggest something like a complete blood transfusion or something. Y'know just flush out the bad vibes
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Anderson missing the net again lmao It's laughable at this point. I don't even feel bad anymore this dude gets paid 5.75 mill a year and he can't even hit the net
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Anderson missing on another high scoring chance
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Anderson hit the f***ing net dude. Shoot lower!
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Imagine being a guy like Ylonen and having to watch players like Anderson, who get favourable linemates and deployment, continuing to get those opportunities, while producing nothing at all.
Must be frustrating.
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Andy will never score again
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Useless Anderson watches Flame go in on breakaway.
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Anderson why stop skating wtf
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LMAO Anderson you can't even make this #### up. HE MISSES AGAIN!? LIKE WTF LOL
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There's bad luck and then there's Anderson's luck
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Oh my god this guy is so unlucky
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Suzuki would have 10 more assists this season if any f***ing right wings could score a goal
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Andy can’t hit the net. Terrible
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Poor Josh, seriously it's now just becoming sad. He's been playing well too.
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Anderson couldnt hit the net with a beach ball at this point.
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Poor Anderson... he's like a tangled garden-hose that's about to explode.
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I'm sorry, but Mr. ZeroGoals shouldn't have been on the ice for the empty net
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Go home Anderson
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He wants to, but he wouldn't be able to get himself in the door.
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No name scores
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He was a 1st round pick in 2020
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To me he’s a no name
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Zary's parents should've called him Harry.. Harry Zary.
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At least one Andersson scored tonight.
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Boo, 2-1.
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We aree always playing catch-up hockey. Even in most of our wins.
It must be mentally exhausting for the players.
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Lol Cole took one peak at the iPad and was like f*** that, don't wanna see it again lol
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Out of CGY top 10scorers, only 3 didn't play significant time in the AHL.
But yeah, not a development league lmao.
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Calgary are so bad wht are we losing this ####
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It feel like both teams are trying to lose for the #1 draft race
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WE WON AGAINST THE BRUINS AND LOST AGAINST THE FLAMES??????
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Can we just ask Marty to jump on the ice and tie the game?
He needs to show them how it's done.
New Coach Smell
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Flames commentators are such bag lickers.
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If the flames had Oilers goaltending they would be behind San Jose
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Yeah he made some big saves. Dungary up 2-1
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Everytime I see husks behind cgy bench, I think it's Pierre Maguire
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Its a tough climb back after such a rough start. If the Flames win, the Oilers can't climb into 31st lol
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Monday will mark the 5th coach to lead McDrai in 9 seasons.
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I mean, these guys have been treated as royalty since mcdavid joined the team. It wouldn’t surprise me if Katz offered to hire someone to wipe their asses if they wanted.
So while I don’t really think they’re purposely trying to remove coaches, it seems like any struggle that the team faces that can’t be pushed off and dealt with later, or handled via a trade (because we’re seemingly always in a position of weakness) is handled by firing the coach. Some deserved it, others likely didn’t, but this teams been conditioned over the last decade to fire a coach when the team begins to struggle, because we haven’t had a GM capable of putting together a good group of D, or bring in a single NHL level starter.
Imo, Woody was a victim of not being in either of the “clubs” involved in running this organization. The Mcdavid connections, and the OBC. I mean, wasn’t Paul Coffey on the Oilers payroll and simply never came to Edmonton because he wanted to coach his sons team in Toronto? Somehow a guy who’s already failed out of a “special advisor” role, was kept around and has now become an assistant coach.
So are they coach killers? In a way, yes. But I don’t think it’s their fault. I think this organization is just continuing its trend of being so poorly run that we as fans keep trying to convince ourselves that it’s the fault of certain players and not the group running the show into the ground from the top.
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That’s why the Flames need to do a rebuild. Motivation in the NHL comes from 2 things: desire to win a cup, money. That’s it. So after you pay a guy, you’ve eliminated one. You then have to pray the person is professional enough to outwork other teams on a nightly basis for the chance to win a cup. The Flames aren’t in a position to win a cup. So here’s your Huberdeau. /snip
I think that's maybe too simplistic. Motivation can come from those things but it can also come from pride, fear, or not wanting to let your team down (among other things). You could be right. Maybe he doesn't care. But you could also be wrong.
Huberdeau is clearly suffering from confidence issues. When a player has no confidence it feels like they can do no right. Even working hard can look sloppy and disjointed because rather than playing on instinct they are thinking every bit and always seem behind. This happens to all but the most elite athletes. It happens outside of sport too. His head is clearly not right. Unfortunately, once this happens to a guy to this extent (rather than a short stint) it's very uncommon to recover so I really doubt he'll ever be at the superstar level again.
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I agree with pretty much everything you said, especially that he has to find a way to get through this. We (fans + club) are stuck with him, as he is with us, given the terms of the contract.
I never said that he should not be criticized or that the criticism is unfair--rather that it is pretty hard to even imagine having everything in your world suddenly make no sense.
Oh, and that the race to post snark every time Huberdeau touches the puck is rather pathetic.
Anyways, back to lurking.
Definitely agree that it must be hard to lose your game like that. I think people tend to forget the human element of being a professional athlete given the fact that they are paid a ton of money to play a game.
It's always good to get different perspectives and hopefully you chose to post more.
I only ask because he may want to consider terminating his contract (mutually) with the Flames. Yes he walks away from $70M, but he already has millions and could likely recoup some of this for the remainder of his career elsewhere (lets assume $20M).
His happiness and sanity is worth something!
I think the NHLPA would have something to say about that
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No, but then again, that wasn't what was on offer was it?
What you offerred was to be booed without mercy. That means everywhere, in every facet of your life. (What? You think you're gonna be able to go shopping without snide comments and leers? You're kidding, right?)
Lotta faith in a guy with 24 total NHL games under his belt getting a $10.5M player goin'
Connor Zary did it with Kadri.
We're not expecting Pelletier to restore Huberdeau to elite superstar status, but just to help Huberdeau get rid of the monkey on his back and bump his slump. Sometimes one needs a little kick start and then can get themselves onto a roll.
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