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Old 11-14-2023, 08:30 AM   #941
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I'm the biggest Zadorov fan on here but if he wants 6 years then... bye bye!

Just sign the 4 X $5mil. That's like 100 trillion rubles when he decides to go back to Russia after Putin is dead.
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Old 11-14-2023, 08:41 AM   #942
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The worst that happens is that the team gets fined and loses draft picks for tampering, and is forbidden to make any offer at all to Nylander.

There's a very good reason why you never see teams pull this kind of stunt during a season.
Montreal did it with PLD and got away with it.
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Old 11-14-2023, 08:56 AM   #943
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I'm the biggest Zadorov fan on here but if he wants 6 years then... bye bye!

Just sign the 4 X $5mil. That's like 100 trillion rubles when he decides to go back to Russia after Putin is dead.
Why would any team give Zadorov 4 x $5M?

He’s a decent #5 dman needing sheltered minutes.
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Old 11-14-2023, 08:57 AM   #944
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Not sure I'd want that contract, but I think he gets 3-5 years at $5M this summer.

Big.
Can Skate.
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Has done well off the ice for making a name.
Can move up the roster with injuries.

He has value.
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Why would any team give Zadorov 4 x $5M?

He’s a decent #5 dman needing sheltered minutes.
I'd have never guessed Gudbranson would get a 4x4 and he did.
you never know with some of these itdiot GM's.
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I'd have never guessed Gudbranson would get a 4x4 and he did.
you never know with some of these itdiot GM's.
If the Columbus GM was competent he should have given that contract to Big Z.
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Montreal did it with PLD and got away with it.
No they didn’t. They talked to PLD when he was a RFA which was within their right then he signed a 1 year deal with the Jets and was traded to the Kings the following summer
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Z is a great rental for a contender. He is a physical Dman who has some offensive upside and is a smooth skater in his prime. He likely wants to get an opportunity to show that value so some other team offers the 4-6 year deal at a significant raise next summer.

Irritating that Z calls out the team then makes a public trade request. For fans who are pro rebuild/retool/reload etc this is not a bad thing as it certainly almost cements their position going forward.
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Old 11-14-2023, 10:07 AM   #949
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All I am seeing on Twitter from Leafs fans are their 27 year old waiver AHL scrubs, late picks, and dumping Klingberg or Brodie on the Flames to get one or both of Tanev/Zadorov
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If the Columbus GM was competent he should have given that contract to Big Z.
When we won the division Gudbranson looked like the superior D for 90% of the season.

Gudbranson was on a great PK1 with Tanev. He blocked a bunch of shots. More often than not he was the one moving the puck up the ice on the Zadorov-Gudbranson pairing. That pairing didn't look worse with Valimaki on it. Z was also terrible to start the year, and he was very off on his passing, which resulted in Gudbranson covering for him. Moreover Gudbranson was the tough guy on that pairing, he fought some heavyweights that year, and he did well clearing the front of the net.

That said, Z was clearly the better D out of that pairing in the playoffs. He would've had an even better playoffs had he not cracked his ribs by crushing into the Dallas net and boards.
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When we won the division Gudbranson looked like the superior D for 90% of the season.

Gudbranson was on a great PK1 with Tanev. He blocked a bunch of shots. More often than not he was the one moving the puck up the ice on the Zadorov-Gudbranson pairing. That pairing didn't look worse with Valimaki on it. Z was also terrible to start the year, and he was very off on his passing, which resulted in Gudbranson covering for him. Moreover Gudbranson was the tough guy on that pairing, he fought some heavyweights that year, and he did well clearing the front of the net.

That said, Z was clearly the better D out of that pairing in the playoffs. He would've had an even better playoffs had he not cracked his ribs by crushing into the Dallas net and boards.
I don't know. they were both pretty good and equal in the regular season but it was clear in the playoffs that Z was better than Godbranson.
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When we won the division Gudbranson looked like the superior D for 90% of the season.

Gudbranson was on a great PK1 with Tanev. He blocked a bunch of shots. More often than not he was the one moving the puck up the ice on the Zadorov-Gudbranson pairing. That pairing didn't look worse with Valimaki on it. Z was also terrible to start the year, and he was very off on his passing, which resulted in Gudbranson covering for him. Moreover Gudbranson was the tough guy on that pairing, he fought some heavyweights that year, and he did well clearing the front of the net.

That said, Z was clearly the better D out of that pairing in the playoffs. He would've had an even better playoffs had he not cracked his ribs by crushing into the Dallas net and boards.
Playing 5-6 minutes against the other teams worst players.

You don’t give highly sheltered players long term contracts at decent AAV.
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Playing 5-6 minutes against the other teams worst players.

You don’t give highly sheltered players long term contracts at decent AAV.
Gudbranson averaged 18 mins a night that season, they were sheltered but not to the extent you suggest. Also the PK duties had him facing the other team's best players.

I wasn't suggesting that Gudbranson deserved that contract. Only that it wasn't completely ridiculous to see him get more than Z in free agency that year.
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All I am seeing on Twitter from Leafs fans are their 27 year old waiver AHL scrubs, late picks, and dumping Klingberg or Brodie on the Flames to get one or both of Tanev/Zadorov
NEWSFLASH: Fanboys fanboy.
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All I am seeing on Twitter from Leafs fans are their 27 year old waiver AHL scrubs, late picks, and dumping Klingberg or Brodie on the Flames to get one or both of Tanev/Zadorov
Which is pretty much what the Leafs have traditionally given to the Flames for star players, let alone bottom pairing D Men LOL

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All I am seeing on Twitter from Leafs fans are their 27 year old waiver AHL scrubs, late picks, and dumping Klingberg or Brodie on the Flames to get one or both of Tanev/Zadorov
Leaf Fans: All I am seeing on Calgarypuck from Flames fans is a 1st round pick and one of Knies/Cowan/Robertson/Niemala and 3rd or 5th pick with Klingberg for Zadorov.
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Newsflash:

UFAs get bigger salaries because there is no acquisition cost. Why is this so difficult for people to comprehend?
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Leaf Fans: All I am seeing on Calgarypuck from Flames fans is a 1st round pick and one of Knies/Cowan/Robertson/Niemala and 3rd or 5th pick with Klingberg for Zadorov.
I don’t have time to go back and read those proposals but I would like to see who thought we were getting Knies+1st?
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I don’t have time to go back and read those proposals but I would like to see who thought we were getting Knies+1st?
nobody

a couple did scoff at a first and Klinberg lol
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Old 11-14-2023, 11:13 AM   #960
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No they didn’t. They talked to PLD when he was a RFA which was within their right then he signed a 1 year deal with the Jets and was traded to the Kings the following summer
it was known for years they wanted him, I didn't say come right out and make offers

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