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Calgary4LIfe · 11-13-2023, 03:28 PM

This is just Francis trying to get some clicks from the Toronto market. Nothing to see here at all. How many games in their lifetime did Abruzzese play with Coronato? They both went and played for the Chicago Steel. They both went and played for Harvard. Anyone have a guess as to how many games they played together?

28 games.

Out of those 28 games, were they on the same line for all of them?

Abruzzese is 4 years older than Coronato. He had left Chicago Steel and went to Harvard the year that Coronato joined the Steel. Then Coronato had another season at Chicago, while Abruzzese (and the rest of the ECAC league) sat out due to covid. Then they finally played together.

Coronato outscored Abruzzese as an 18 year old freshman, and Abruzzese was 24.

It is great that he is an AHL player of the week, but he is no more than just a throw-in to balance contracts or something in my opinion. There is no 'chemistry' here to work on. I think it is just Francis trying to get clicks. Either that, or he didn't dig very hard on any overlaps that these two kids did(n't) have.

Aarongavey · 11-13-2023, 03:32 PM

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Possible, but unlikely imo. Regardless there is nothing to indicate the Leafs want to even move him but some fan speculation, the team has said to the media he was playing through some injury issues and they still believe he is going to be an important piece down the stretch.

I hope Brad puts all his faith in Klingberg, he is a horrific defensive dman.

topfiverecords · 11-13-2023, 03:36 PM

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Klingberg will waive to go pretty much anywhere. It's going to be that, monch popcorn, or receive the Aki Berg treatment. Pitchforks are already out. Management is doing their best to insulate him, and themselves, for a couple weeks or days with talk of this mysterious injury. But nobody is any longer expecting that he will be a major contributor this season for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Why would he waive to go anywhere. He's getting 20 mins a night on a good team with potential to go deep into the playoffs.

dissentowner · 11-13-2023, 03:37 PM

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I hope Brad puts all his faith in Klingberg, he is a horrific defensive dman.

Agreed but BT had to know how bad he was defensively before he signed him. That was always a head scratcher to me.

GioforPM · 11-13-2023, 03:42 PM

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Why would he waive to go anywhere. He's getting 20 mins a night on a good team with potential to go deep into the playoffs.

I thought he was scratched and and while they claimed injury, he said he could play.

memphusk · 11-13-2023, 03:45 PM

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Agreed but BT had to know how bad he was defensively before he signed him. That was always a head scratcher to me.

Feels at times he didn't know anything.

Saqe · 11-13-2023, 03:48 PM

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Agreed but BT had to know how bad he was defensively before he signed him. That was always a head scratcher to me.

Klinberg is a former big name. To me it looks like a typical Tree signing. Just like Brower, Neal etc.

topfiverecords · 11-13-2023, 03:49 PM

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I thought he was scratched and and while they claimed injury, he said he could play.

He missed the game against us and then played 19:00 the next night vs Vancouver.

butterfly · 11-13-2023, 03:58 PM

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Why would he waive to go anywhere. He's getting 20 mins a night on a good team with potential to go deep into the playoffs.

Again, they can trade him to 21 teams without needing a waiver. It's not up to him.

Pickle Juice · 11-13-2023, 04:03 PM

If we are doing a deal with TO I want Reaves in the return, just to shut Kane up next time we play the oil! Also if we are about to have a pile of young prospects playing for this team, a guy like him will be needed in my opinion.

topfiverecords · 11-13-2023, 04:03 PM

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Again, they can trade him to 21 teams without needing a waiver. It's not up to him.

Why are you responding with that?

The comment from liamenator was that "he would waive to go anywhere". Key words waive and anywhere. Give it a couple milliseconds of thought.

topfiverecords · 11-13-2023, 04:04 PM

Do we need a forum training course? It's getting really bad lately.

Jiggy · 11-13-2023, 04:07 PM

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Klinberg is a former big name. To me it looks like a typical Tree signing. Just like Brower, Neal etc.

Remember when Klingberg didn't accept the Stars offer of 8x7? He was pushing for 8x8. The Stars really dodged a bullet there.

butterfly · 11-13-2023, 04:11 PM

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Why are you responding with that?

The comment from liamenator was that "he would waive to go anywhere". Key words waive and anywhere. Give it a couple milliseconds of thought.

That's awfully nice of you.

If Toronto wants to get rid of Klingberg, they can. It has nothing to do with what you, I, or liamenator thinks about whether Klingberg will waive to go to one of the 10 teams on the list. There are 21 other teams that don't require that step.

topfiverecords · 11-13-2023, 04:24 PM

So do you understand why your comment didn't make any sense in response to mine or not?

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If Toronto wants to get rid of Klingberg, they can.

No one has argued against that they can.

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It has nothing to do with what you, I, or liamenator thinks about whether Klingberg will waive to go to one of the 10 teams on the list.

Great observation, thanks.

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There are 21 other teams that don't require that step.

Everyone knows this.

So now please get back to the topic. Why would Klingberg, a player averaging 20:33 of ice time on a playoff bound team with good potential to go deep, waive to go anywhere?

FormerPresJamesTaylor · 11-13-2023, 04:25 PM

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Umm yes it does. Do I have to explain to you what no trade clauses are? Here, let me help you out, the player gets to put 10 teams he can't be traded to, that means when the GM wants to trade him he can't trade him to one of those 1O teams. So yes, if Calgary is on his list (almost certainly are) he can't be traded here.

Of course he can be traded here, he'd just need to agree to it (if Calgary is on his 10 team list). Thought that point didn't need to be spelled out, but apparently it did. So it's worth discussing

Also, why use a capital O in the number ten instead of a zero?

Ped · 11-13-2023, 04:36 PM

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Why would Klingberg, a player averaging 20:33 of ice time on a playoff bound team with good potential to go deep, waive to go anywhere?

Well, he's playing in the most scrutinized hockey market in the world, he's playing absolutely terribly whether he's injured or not, and he's playing for another contract.

If he's still in Toronto at the deadline and not getting ice-time anymore because of how terrible he's been, he might very well welcome a trade anywhere to boost his value enough.

butterfly · 11-13-2023, 04:37 PM

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So now please get back to the topic. Why would Klingberg, a player averaging 20:33 of ice time on a playoff bound team with good potential to go deep, waive to go anywhere?

You don't think he would, liamenator thinks he would.

I don't find the topic any more interesting than what color car Klingberg has. Whichever one of you is right will not prevent the implementation of any plan that Toronto has for changing their team.

FlamesAddiction · 11-13-2023, 04:42 PM

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Remember when Klingberg didn't accept the Stars offer of 8x7? He was pushing for 8x8. The Stars really dodged a bullet there.

Did they ever.

He seemed like a much better player in the their system though. Their defensive structure likely covered up a lot of the warts. That's the thing about specialty players like him. If you can align the stars, they can fill a niche. If you can't they often look terrible.

dissentowner · 11-13-2023, 04:51 PM

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Of course he can be traded here, he'd just need to agree to it (if Calgary is on his 10 team list). Thought that point didn't need to be spelled out, but apparently it did. So it's worth discussing

Also, why use a capital O in the number ten instead of a zero?

Ok genius, explain why if Calgary is on his list he would waive to come here. Cup Contender? Nope. Likes the team? Nope, he has a history with this team in the past that isn't positive. Boost his offensive numbers? Nope, this team is a black hole when it comes to putting up points. Those balmy Calgary winters maybe? Go ahead, tell us why he would waive to leave a hockey hotbed with a solid chance at a playoff run for the Calgary Flames. Also for those bringing up the no trade list and if Calgary is on it, for the aforementioned reasons they will be. You can't name 10 other teams more likely to be on there, go ahead and try.