[PGT] There was a 4-1 hockey game I guess

[getbak]

• Conroy was hired on May 23.
• The Predators hired Brunette on May 31.
• The Flames hired Huska on June 12.

Was Brunette even an option for Conroy? With that timeline, it seems likely that Brunette was already well into the hiring process with the Preds before Conroy was even on the job.

[Hockey_Ninja]

I’m done blaming coaching. Huska hasn’t been the best but after the power struggle with Darryl last year and how that ended, It’s all on the players now.

It’s obvious some of them don’t want to be Flames anymore. The current core players have not clicked after 90+ games together now. The roster simply isn’t good enough

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Gonna be a long few years for some who can’t stomach even the smallest fraction of what is a rebuild

Can you really not tell the difference between this season where he is trying to compete and the same type of season where they acknowledge they are trying to rebuild. Give me a break.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Just remember our last season in the dumpster got us Tkachuk.

Can you stomach a season like that with hopefully more losses to get higher up.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

This happens all the time. UFA's are traded during their expiring season. Like, having Toffolli, Lindholm and Hanifin expiring at once is way too much, but just Hanifin and Lindholm is good? You want it both ways.
.

I want them to get good value and recognize that the trade market is tight
But I think the Toffoli deal was fine and at most maybe you get a second instead of a third if you wait.
My point is that if he came into this season with all the pending ufas people would be all over Conroy.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Can you really not tell the difference between this season where he is trying to compete and the same type of season where they acknowledge they are trying to rebuild. Give me a break.

We’ve heard the perspective has changed based on the start
A good manager reacts and pivots based on new data
It’s a good thing

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Posters turning on Conroy already

WTF

he is doing exactly what most wanted

Nobody is turning in him. I listed two things I thought he did poorly and one hing I thought he is doing well.

And saying I would have preferred we brought in an outside GM and coach isn't exactly a crazy take.

[Jiri Hrdina]

You called him a “bad choice”. I guess you haven’t turned on him because you clearly never were willing to give him a chance

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I want them to get good value and recognize that the trade market is tight
But I think the Toffoli deal was fine and at most maybe you get a second instead of a third if you wait.
My point is that if he came into this season with all the pending ufas people would be all over Conroy.

One less UFA makes a difference. Come on, we still have lots if UFA's and nobody is complaining about it.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

20 minutes a night for a playmaker to try and do his thing in a system that preaches low danger point shots with no traffic. If by some miracle we had acquired Nathan MacKinnon two years ago you would be bitching he was a bad player and fell off a cliff because he would have about 5 points right now and probably 55 last season. You can't expect a skilled West-East playmaker to have any success in a perimeter shooting low danger system.

Mackinnon would have scored more than 55 points under Huska or Sutter’s systems because Mackinnon is an elite play driver and one of the best skaters in hockey with elite skill. Nobody on this Flames team is close to having the talent and drive that Mackinnon has. If they did then they would’ve made the playoffs last year and would have a better record right now

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

One less UFA makes a difference. Come on, we still have lots if UFA's and nobody is complaining about it.

Sure people are. Are you reading the same board I am?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Touche. Still, please tell me what we have seen that indicates Huska is a good coach. No offensive system? More turnovers than a Dutch Bakery? Oh I know, it's the ridiculous constant line juggling and poor line construction, that must be it!

Blaming the coach for turnovers? That's... one way to go.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

You called him a “bad choice”. I guess you haven’t turned on him because you clearly never were willing to give him a chance

Have I said he should be fired? I didn't know we weren't allowed to say we didn't like the Toffolli Trade or Huska hire.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

I feel bad for Wolf

I feel bad for any non retirement contract player in the flames organization

[manwiches]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Nobody is turning in him. I listed two things I thought he did poorly and one hing I thought he is doing well.



And saying I would have preferred we brought in an outside GM and coach isn't exactly a crazy take.

The reverse poo sandwich!

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[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Can you really not tell the difference between this season where he is trying to compete and the same type of season where they acknowledge they are trying to rebuild. Give me a break.

We tried to compete in 15/16 as well and got Tkachuk.

It doesn't always go to plan.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

Have I said he should be fired? I didn't know we weren't allowed to say we didn't like the Toffolli Trade or Huska hire.

Who said anything about what one is allowed to say?
just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t mean they are saying you aren’t allowed to say something

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by TheSkinner

When I watch the Flames play and fail, I get less frustrated looking at teams like New Jersey who have accumulated top talent through the draft and more-so by teams like the Bruins. Charlie Coyle and Pavel Zacha are their top two centres. Derek Forbert and Shattenkirk are in their top 4 D. James Van Reimsdyk is somewhere in their middle 6. Yes they have Pasternak and an old Marchand that are top talents. But the rest is meh.

In spite of how the Flames play, they have enough talent to be a good (maybe not great) team.

Watching them is very unenjoyable with the same turnovers at the offensive blue line turning into odd man goals agains and being unable to finish when the finally generate good chances.

I don’t think you can call the Flames a team

There is little chemistry between them

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Who said anything about what one is allowed to say?
just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t mean they are saying you aren’t allowed to say something

"All of this is premature to be drawing such strong conclusions against"

I mean I had specific complains and your response was it was too early to talk about it.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

What if brunette didn’t want to come here?

Him and Huberdeau were super tight, there is no way he would have turned down coaching him in a passionate Canadian market.