[PGT] There was a 4-1 hockey game I guess

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Fourteen FTW

When every single skill player is invisible, yes they own some blame, but there has to be a system problem too.

Yeah, the problem is there aren’t enough good players to run the system.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Umm, half the roster has turned over since Darryl started here.

How long have hanifin, lindholm, Dube, mangiapane and backlund been here? Coleman? What have they done this season? Sfa.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Glass completely full for me. I enjoy the wins. Either the vets are increasing their trade values, or the kids are giving me hope that this thing will get turned around down the road. I enjoy the losses too, as the kids continue to give me hope, and that it gives the organization (including the owners) more evidence that a rebuild needs to happen. I am just enjoying the games no matter the outcome.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

All the complaining about how we are playing and winning. A lot of people want a rebuild and wanted it in the offseason want guys traded for futures and picks.

Well you can't be winning games if you want to rebuild. If you can't stomach this maybe you really can't stomach a rebuild because you will get more of these hard fought losses.

The issue isn't the hard fought losses. The issue is the team insisting that it's gunning for a playoff spot while churning out hard fought losses.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

I’m just saying it’s clear to all of us that the team is losing. We get it.

But when you try to grind your axe with some of these points that supposedly prove Huska was a bad hire, it’s not hitting the mark.

We get it. You don’t like Huska.

I don't understand why it's fine for every other post to be about how bad Huberdeau is yet it's not ok to criticize the coach who is not using any kind of system to use him effectively. It's ok for pages and pages of posters bitching about whatever player they want but a couple of posts about how poor the coach is and it's I hate the coach and "we get it".

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

How long have hanifin, lindholm, Dube, mangiapane and backlund been here? Coleman? What have they done this season? Sfa.

Right, in other words half the roster has turned over, as I said.

[3rd liner]

Originally Posted by heep223

Kind of an odd take but I am super disappointed by Dube. This could be the type of situation where he really steps up into his own, but seems like he’s giving a giant shrug. Maybe I overestimated his potential but at one point I thought he could be a pretty good 2nd line scoring winger. He looks like a borderline NHLer at this point

This 100%. I really want dube to succeed- cochrane kid, speedy. But just completely unimpressive last couple of years. Looking like a borderline NHLer for sure.

[RedHot25]

Originally Posted by Igottago

"He wasn't the worst". $10.5M well spent.

Better throw Lindholm under the same buss.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

You think promoting the AGM and assistant coach counts as a change? They went with a No Frills version of Trelieving and Sutter.

This team needed a fresh set of eyes and preferably someone who had success somewhere else with character references.

Honestly yes. What vision did Treliving provide? Talked in platitudes about making team better.

Conroy wants us bigger. That is evident. Look at the draft. Getting rid of tofolli and brining in a bigger, faster and younger body.

Huska vs Sutter? Can’t get much different than that.

Was a big mistake coming into the season with 6 ufas. I was disappointed this was the case and wanted trades, but the market sucks. But goes beyond the ufas. Get rid of the long termers and get more youth in lineup.

[Wastedyouth]

Sell sell sell!

Woooo!

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Right, in other words half the roster has turned over, as I said.

And the ones left have crapped the bed. So it’s on them. Not Huska.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

How long have hanifin, lindholm, Dube, mangiapane and backlund been here? Coleman? What have they done this season? Sfa.

If you had a GAF meter Coleman would be on the top of that list

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Yeah, the problem is there aren’t enough good players to run the system.

Ya, that's it, Huberdeau whom was coming off a 115 point season and multiple years of being over a ppg isn't good enough to run a system. Newsflash, nobody is good enough to run this system because it doesn't cater to creating offence. At least with Sutter we could see what he was trying even though it didn't fit this roster at all, high volume shots from a distance. I don't even know wtf this system is, I don't think there even is one.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

A good defense on paper. Not on the ice. Huge difference. Did you see Zadorov's play tonight? Hanifin has been wildly inconsistent. Has Rasmus done anything since coming back from his suspension? Tanev has also clearly taken a step back, not surprising with the mileage on that body.

Hanifin and Anderson are a great pair...why does Huska refuse to play them together anymore?

I get it, Huberdeau is hardcore struggling. Not letting him sniff the PP won't help that.

It's completely possible to have a bad team and a bad coach at the same time.

As I said, if they seemed to have some for. Of good team play but we're losing on a lack of skill hats one thing. And that is something that would build towards the future. Have no semblance of a system and letting the team run around like a chicken. With its head cut off is a bad thing.

[BaconGuy]

Personally I don’t think Huska is that great of a coach. The coaches job is to try to motivate his players and establish an identity and after the first dozen games….I can’t even tell you what this team is or the system they are trying to play….its wildly inconsistent.

Players sucking or not, I don’t think Huska gets a free pass here.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

And the ones left have crapped the bed. So it’s on them. Not Huska.

Oh yes, that totally happened. Tkachuk has been an absolute dud and that Toffoli guy, h is just stinking up the joint in NJ. The only one that didn't thrive is Gaudreau who has different priorities than winning hockey games now.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

If you had a GAF meter Coleman would be on the top of that list

Taking stupid penalties is indicative of gaf I guess. He’s really panning out isn’t he?

Not worth his salary. Not his fault as he was offered the money but he doesn’t produce his salary and I don’t see him stellar at the defensive part of the game.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't understand why it's fine for every other post to be about how bad Huberdeau is yet it's not ok to criticize the coach who is not using any kind of system to use him effectively. It's ok for pages and pages of posters bitching about whatever player they want but a couple of posts about how poor the coach is and it's I hate the coach and "we get it".

Because is ludicrous to think this supposedly elite NHL can't figure out how to look even remotely mediocre under two completely different head coaches now.
The player is terrible, full stop, this isn't a systems issue.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

Better throw Lindholm under the same buss.

They haven't signed him to another 8 years...yet.

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't understand why it's fine for every other post to be about how bad Huberdeau is yet it's not ok to criticize the coach who is not using any kind of system to use him effectively. It's ok for pages and pages of posters bitching about whatever player they want but a couple of posts about how poor the coach is and it's I hate the coach and "we get it".

This is so far from a systems issue with Huberdeau. Look at his performance on the powerplay where he has ample time and space on the flank. It doesn't matter, he can't make plays anymore, like not even simple passes most of the time. That's not Huska's fault. He's bad, he has been bad for 95 games.

At the start of the season Huska was giving him a ton of rope, playing him >20 minutes a night, moving him around, trying to find a fit. At some point it's just on the player.