[PGT] There was a 4-1 hockey game I guess

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Well almost every expert projected this roster to be a WC team or a challenger to it, if you look at last year if they had any semblance of goaltending or the ability to win in OT they would have made the playoffs. Despite losing Toffoli I think the roster is actually deeper and better than last year and yet they have no structure, no system that I can remotely tell, it's like they are coached to turn pucks over and not defend. You can argue the roster is not very good and that's fine but people need to stop defending this garbage coach, he is terrible, the worst thing we have seen since Gilbert. Now given the fact this team needs to strip it down and build toward the future I am perfectly fine with Huska staying as coach for now, they wouldn't have a better guy back there to sewer this team.

What did those experts think about the Oilers?

[Fourteen FTW]

Great take on what we are seeing with Huberdeau. And I am NOT usually a Button fan. https://youtu.be/pkqyXdEYUb4?si=8xE1xvXUqPb404rY

Specifically the trying to be perfect comment.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Stevie Y knows a bit about hockey. More than a lot of us here. If he saw enough to shortlist Huska, I think that counts for something as to what kind of coach he is.

So why did he not hire this amazing coach and instead went with a guy he knew from TB that's record isn't awe inspiring either?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So why did he not hire this amazing coach and instead went with a guy he knew from TB that's record isn't awe inspiring either?

On the Huska front…so far, he’s the perfect coach for what this team needs right now (which is to suck).

…but that wasn’t the plan. The Flames wanted to compete this season. With that in mind? Big ol “whoopsie”.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Gotta say the Love love confuses me. There are zero data to suggest he would have been any good at the NHL level. It’s more the absence of such data that has people in such thrall.

I'm not saying he was the answer, but I'm saying he has had more success as a professional head coach than Huska.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

For the life of me I don't know what Zadorov was thinking on the 3rd goal. Gets the puck behind the net, with no one pursing from his right, and the guy on his left several feet away - decides to try and do a reverse check or something.

It looked like he took a glance at the press box and saw Conroy on his phone and got distracted.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

What did those experts think about the Oilers?

Touche. Still, please tell me what we have seen that indicates Huska is a good coach. No offensive system? More turnovers than a Dutch Bakery? Oh I know, it's the ridiculous constant line juggling and poor line construction, that must be it!

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Not sure why we're even discussing coaching with this team. It's just giving a free pass to the players where the blame obviously lies.

I'm more upset that they may be hurting their trade value by their poor play. Yes, I'm looking straight at you Lindholm. Just awful this season.

Thank you. Someone gets it. Coaches have changed. GM has changed. A lot of the players have been here long enough and they are the constant. Chucky and Johnny are gone. Boo hoo. It’s on the players here to do something, not bitch and moan about tough coaches, players leaving, etc. do your damn job.

And yeah. Lindholm tanking his value, both in trade and salary next year. $8.5 per year? Yeah right.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

You think this team is San Jose level bad, because that is where they are at. The have a good defense core, average goaltending and below average forwards. That does not make you the third worst team in he league.

They lost one key forward, that's a 30point drop in the standings?

They are better than this. How much better? not a ton, but better. Hiring another never has been cheapo coach and watching his team put up two shots in the third period of a game and not making a single change anywhere is pathetic.

A good defense on paper. Not on the ice. Huge difference. Did you see Zadorov's play tonight? Hanifin has been wildly inconsistent. Has Rasmus done anything since coming back from his suspension? Tanev has also clearly taken a step back, not surprising with the mileage on that body.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Thank you. Someone gets it. Coaches have changed. GM has changed. A lot of the players have been here long enough and they are the constant. Chucky and Johnny are gone. Boo hoo. It’s on the players here to do something, not bitch and moan about tough coaches, players leaving, etc. do your damn job.

And yeah. Lindholm tanking his value, both in trade and salary next year. $8.5 per year? Yeah right.

Umm, half the roster has turned over since Darryl started here.

[Fourteen FTW]

When every single skill player is invisible, yes they own some blame, but there has to be a system problem too.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Conroy was missing from the press box.

I think I spotted him on the evening news...he was wearing those glasses with the fake nose and moustache trying to cross the bridge to slip into Quebec.

"Oh hon hon! Je ne suis pas ce Monsieur Conroy...je suis Monsieur Guy Incognito! Mais ouis! Hon hon!"

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

You think this team is San Jose level bad, because that is where they are at. The have a good defense core, average goaltending and below average forwards. That does not make you the third worst team in he league.

They lost one key forward, that's a 30point drop in the standings?

They are better than this. How much better? not a ton, but better. Hiring another never has been cheapo coach and watching his team put up two shots in the third period of a game and not making a single change anywhere is pathetic.

Sutter for all his faults at least had this team playing a solid 200ft game more often than not. It's noticably worse this year.

Toffoli was this team's only high-end pure scorer. Now he's gone.

Hanifin and Lindholm are playing far worse than they did last year. Huberdeau seems worse than his already disappointing production last year.

So yes, when you add it all up, it's a big drop off from last year. Maybe not 30 points worse but at least 15-20.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Touche. Still, please tell me what we have seen that indicates Huska is a good coach. No offensive system? More turnovers than a Dutch Bakery? Oh I know, it's the ridiculous constant line juggling and poor line construction, that must be it!

I’m just saying it’s clear to all of us that the team is losing. We get it.

But when you try to grind your axe with some of these points that supposedly prove Huska was a bad hire, it’s not hitting the mark.

We get it. You don’t like Huska.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Thank you. Someone gets it. Coaches have changed. GM has changed. A lot of the players have been here long enough and they are the constant. Chucky and Johnny are gone. Boo hoo. It’s on the players here to do something, not bitch and moan about tough coaches, players leaving, etc. do your damn job.

And yeah. Lindholm tanking his value, both in trade and salary next year. $8.5 per year? Yeah right.

And where is Eat Bread? Dube? Backlund?

They have some guys that can score the odd goal, but man some of those guys just looked checked out. Looks like a team full of players just waiting for trades to happen to see where they go.

No surprise the brightest stars this season are the rookies. They care.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Thank you. Someone gets it. Coaches have changed. GM has changed. A lot of the players have been here long enough and they are the constant. Chucky and Johnny are gone. Boo hoo. It’s on the players here to do something, not bitch and moan about tough coaches, players leaving, etc. do your damn job.

And yeah. Lindholm tanking his value, both in trade and salary next year. $8.5 per year? Yeah right.

You think promoting the AGM and assistant coach counts as a change? They went with a No Frills version of Trelieving and Sutter.

This team needed a fresh set of eyes and preferably someone who had success somewhere else with character references.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Infinit47

You think promoting the AGM and assistant coach counts as a change? They went with a No Frills version of Trelieving and Sutter.

This team needed a fresh set of eyes and preferably someone who had success somewhere else with character references.

No. This team needed a new roster, with at least a sniper or two. Alas, we have none.

It's incredible how much Huberdeau's drop off has affected this organization. Not just his play, but his cap hit. It's crippling.

Add on to that Lindholm's disappearing act and it's no wonder the team is struggling. Any team would.

[iamca]

Just finished watching the movie Indian Horse, which is definitely more depressing than this franchise.


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[Paulie Walnuts]

All the complaining about how we are playing and winning. A lot of people want a rebuild and wanted it in the offseason want guys traded for futures and picks.

Well you can't be winning games if you want to rebuild. If you can't stomach this maybe you really can't stomach a rebuild because you will get more of these hard fought losses.

[Vedder]

The top scorer on the this team had 64 points last year. Most of the top players don’t even want to be here.

Trying to evaluate a coach based on this roster is pretty much futile.