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Old 11-11-2023, 09:28 AM   #401
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So a 3rd and a 7th would suffice in your view?
A 3rd and future considerations will do.
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Old 11-11-2023, 09:29 AM   #402
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I just don't understand his effort to be a leader and the next day change his mind and ask for a trade. And this is after getting 5/6 points in the last three games.
They set up the Flames and Conroy to do this in Toronto on the big stage. Didn’t help he played the least amount all season.

His agent suddenly tweeting highlights.

It was a calculated move.

Imagine if that was Alan Walsh. Many posters would probably fly out to Ontario to go after Huberdeau today.
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Old 11-11-2023, 09:33 AM   #403
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If that was all that was on the table, then yes - that would suffice.
And how long do you give to determine what is on the table?
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Old 11-11-2023, 09:35 AM   #404
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How did Z get along with Darryl?

Is his ice time significantly down this year?
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Old 11-11-2023, 09:36 AM   #405
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A 3rd and future considerations will do.
Well that is one end of the spectrum I guess.
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Old 11-11-2023, 09:37 AM   #406
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How did Z get along with Darryl?

Is his ice time significantly down this year?
He was a healthy scratch to start his stint in Calgary.

He was on the 3rd pair his first season and played a similar role to this year last season.

It's pretty obvious this is a business decision.
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A 3rd and future considerations will do.
Zadorov’s play and reputation has improved since he arrived here, as evidenced by his last contract. I’d like to see more than a 3rd for him.
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Old 11-11-2023, 09:40 AM   #408
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I don’t often post this stuff but I do have a connection to the team and I believe I posted a few things before they happened (Talbot signing and AAV, Markstrom, Richardson/Gudbranson late summer signings).

Conroy is pissed at Milstein and is going to call him and rip him apart. As of 2 days ago Z wanted to re-sign for 6 years for “a lot”. Conroy isn’t going to rush this and will do it on his terms as Zadorov isn’t a good enough player to have demands like this.

Not trying to be an “insiderrr” but I like to share when I get interesting tidbits.

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Pretty crazy how quick CP Is to turn on this guy. Was one of the few that outwardly GAF.

If Flames were rewarding real leaders, Zadorov would have an "A" instead of Huberdeau.

Zadorov was the only guy keeping the opposition honest physically. Going to be tough to replace what he brings.
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I don’t often post this stuff but I do have a connection to the team and I believe I posted a few things before they happened (Talbot signing and AAV, Markstrom, Richardson/Gudbranson late summer signings).

Conroy is pissed at Milstein and is going to call him and rip him apart. As of 2 days ago Z wanted to re-sign for 6 years for “a lot”. Conroy isn’t going to rush this and will do it on his terms as Zadorov isn’t a good enough player to have demands like this.

Not trying to be an “insiderrr” but I like to share when I get interesting tidbits.
Bottom pair dmen who want 6 yr deals for “a lot” should get that money somewhere else.
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I don’t often post this stuff but I do have a connection to the team and I believe I posted a few things before they happened (Talbot signing and AAV, Markstrom, Richardson/Gudbranson late summer signings).

Conroy is pissed at Milstein and is going to call him and rip him apart. As of 2 days ago Z wanted to re-sign for 6 years for “a lot”. Conroy isn’t going to rush this and will do it on his terms as Zadorov isn’t a good enough player to have demands like this.

Not trying to be an “insiderrr” but I like to share when I get interesting tidbits.
Maybe next time Conroy can keep quiet about holding off on extension negotiations?

Did it to himself.
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Old 11-11-2023, 09:47 AM   #412
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I’d keep Z. Been on that camp all year. I have to trust that Connie knows what he is doing and Z is just asking too much (min. 5x5) which is why Connie hasn’t shown strong interest. At least it best not be because Hanifin.
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No one is turning on him but he wants a payday and thankfully the team is saying no thanks.

So his agent went on Twitter and made comments. Requested a trade that got out.

Not sure what they are trying to accomplish but back the Flames into a corner and trade him quick.
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Pretty crazy how quick CP Is to turn on this guy. Was one of the few that outwardly GAF.

If Flames were rewarding real leaders, Zadorov would have an "A" instead of Huberdeau.

Zadorov was the only guy keeping the opposition honest physically. Going to be tough to replace what he brings.
It seems like people are justifiably trashing the agent moreso than Zadorov himself.
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Old 11-11-2023, 09:52 AM   #415
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Well that is one end of the spectrum I guess.
I think it would be a success if the Flames got a second round pick.
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Maybe next time Conroy can keep quiet about holding off on extension negotiations?

Did it to himself.
When did conroy say this?
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I’d keep Z. Been on that camp all year. I have to trust that Connie knows what he is doing and Z is just asking too much (min. 5x5) which is why Connie hasn’t shown strong interest. At least it best not be because Hanifin.
Honestly Zadorov might be worth 5x5. Would rather him at that price and term over Hanifin.

Hanifin and Tanev are on the way out anyway.

Need someone to mentor guy like Solovyov, and Zadorov would have been ideal there.

This is just disastrous all around. Rippling effects of Conroy making it known to the vets that extensions weren't coming. The one thing Treliving did well was keep his damn mouth shut.
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Hold on to him until the deadline, pick up a late 1st and a prospect. No need to rush and get a 3rd or late 2nd now.
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Pretty crazy how quick CP Is to turn on this guy. Was one of the few that outwardly GAF.

If Flames were rewarding real leaders, Zadorov would have an "A" instead of Huberdeau.

Zadorov was the only guy keeping the opposition honest physically. Going to be tough to replace what he brings.

Multiple things can be true at once:

-Zadorov can be one of the few with a high GAF meter
-Zadorov can be a fan-favourite
-Zadaorov/agent can be asking for something the Flames can’t/won’t provide.

I like the player and some of what he brings (don’t like the self-appointed “rover” role he sometimes occupies…especially in the D Zone), but if the Flames can get something for him in a trade (especially during his UFA season and the Flames’ “retooling” season), I say “make it so”!
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Keep:

Coronato
Zary
Pelletier
Anderson
Kylington
Wolf

Literally anyone else can go if the right deal comes along. Start over, be patient, build through the draft.
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