2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Agents calling GM's is nothing new Treliving said it happens all the time for various reasons.

I think a lot of hockey fans think an agent's job only occurs between June 20th - October 12th and then they smoke cigars and sit around for the seven months.


Agents are active all the way through. Speaking with coaches, speaking with GMs. Trying to make sure that their client is being taken care of and set up to succeed. If a player is struggling, a player better hope the guy he pays to represent him is representing him.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

They would have to be insane to agree to mutually terminate one of the biggest contracts in the league. I guess if the player was really upstanding and felt like he wasn't living up to it, he could choose to leave all the money at the table. The agent would have to give up his huge commissions too. I don't think any player has ever done that although Lucic did say he considered hanging up his skates early when he was depressed in Edm/Cgy.

I don't think he had a lot of real money left on his deal if I am not mistaken.

Last year he got 1 million.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Wouldn’t an agent typically be involved in any meeting between their client and the executives? Or am I out to lunch?

[868904]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Why would Jonathan want to go to the Habs? That’s like Calgary on steroids when you’re a French Canadian.

It's about fit.

The Flames as an organization have always played a certain style of hockey. Teams have always been built on grit and are "less flashy" than the neighbours up north. The current coach is no different. Even the 89 Flames team was a gritty bunch.

Habs teams have always been "flashy", free flowing skating teams, "the flying frenchman". The have high end finishers in Caufield and Suzuki locked in long term and they have a coach who has always played an offensively inclined game. In fact, that particularly coach also was not a "good fit" for his original NHL organization. I think Huberdeau could flourish in Montreal, and it could really accelerate their rebuild.

A deal involving Huberdeau, Gallagher, Anderson makes a lot of sense. Those players are on the wrong team right now.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Agents calling GM's is nothing new Treliving said it happens all the time for various reasons.

Yeah, who knows what this meeting may have been about. It could have been about anything.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Something of this magnitude should require a face to face? Especially if the agent and cancer in the room Huberdeau requested it?

I guess teams, zoom, webex you can still get on. I would think the agent and player would want to discuss things in person before going into a meeting like this.

We can only speculate at what the details of the discussion were about. Anything in between "just checking in to see that John is still part of the Flames' plans and what can he do improve" to at the other end of the spectrum where they demand a trade.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Sec214

There was a meeting held today after practice/team meetings this morning. It's believed to between Management, Jonathan and his agent Allan Walsh.

The player agent requested the meeting.

I don't believe a trade request was put in directly but I wonder if a straws are starting to be drawn.

My view is when a player requests a trade, all NTCs should immediately be voided.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

My view is when a player requests a trade, all NTCs should immediately be voided.

My view is, if a player requests a trade and really just wants out he'd waive it. I think voiding it is a step to far.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

But if Huberdeau regains is form, that is a steal of a deal for Montreal.

We're going to have The Legend of Sam Bennett, the Saga of Sean Monahan, The Chronicles of Matthew Phillips, and the Fable of Jonathan Huberdeau for years if he goes to Montreal and kicks ****

[Major Major]

A trade request at this point is laughable. That would be my actual response if I were Conroy. I would laugh. You negotiated a contract that is untradable given your client's performance. Sooooo... Cool request. Hopefully you flew on points.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

They would have to be insane to agree to mutually terminate one of the biggest contracts in the league. I guess if the player was really upstanding and felt like he wasn't living up to it, he could choose to leave all the money at the table. The agent would have to give up his huge commissions too. I don't think any player has ever done that although Lucic did say he considered hanging up his skates early when he was depressed in Edm/Cgy.

It is unlikely and I'm not suggesting one way or the other. I was just responding to the poster saying that the Flames would get nothing out of Huberdeau as an asset if they terminated the contract. Unless we knew Huberdeau's mindset, who's to say?

[mrdonkey]

Pay me an untradeable amount of money, and then trade me!

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by D as in David

We can only speculate at what the details of the discussion were about. Anything in between "just checking in to see that John is still part of the Flames' plans and what can he do improve" to at the other end of the spectrum where they demand a trade.

Well the poster making the rumours up make it seem like its something major, a trade request as not been made but..

But I am sure he or she will follow it up with some useless gifs when asked questions.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well the poster making the rumours up make it seem like its something major, a trade request as not been made but..

But I am sure he or she will follow it up with some useless gifs when asked questions.

I don't think it is a rumour more than it is a suggestion that Conroy and co are trying to put out some fires.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by 868904

It's about fit.

The Flames as an organization have always played a certain style of hockey. Teams have always been built on grit and are "less flashy" than the neighbours up north. The current coach is no different. Even the 89 Flames team was a gritty bunch.

Habs teams have always been "flashy", free flowing skating teams, "the flying frenchman". The have high end finishers in Caufield and Suzuki locked in long term and they have a coach who has always played an offensively inclined game. In fact, that particularly coach also was not a "good fit" for his original NHL organization. I think Huberdeau could flourish in Montreal, and it could really accelerate their rebuild.

A deal involving Huberdeau, Gallagher, Anderson makes a lot of sense. Those players are on the wrong team right now.

Right. But Jonathan is on the record as saying it's a tough spot for native Quebecers. And if he's having trouble adjusting to a Cdn market after FLA, I can't see MTL being a better fit that way. *shrugs*

[Ashasx]

Trading Huberdeau is the wrong move right now when his value cannot possibly go lower, outside of the odd chance that you can trade him for other albatross contracts that have shorter terms.

It's just not realistic.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Pay me an untradeable amount of money, and then trade me!

Not Huberdeau’s fault he took that money, anyone would, the Flames as an organization bungled things in succession to lead them to this moment. Huberdeau is a symptom of organizational incompetence. He deserves blame for his poor play, but the organization shoulders the blame for everything else associated.

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Minor trade.

Calen Addison from the Wild to the Sharks, for Adam Raska and a draft pick.

https://www.nhl.com/sharks/news/shar...fth-round-pick

Traded to one of worst teams in history. Couldn’t have happened to a better guy.

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Plus Weegar, a 1st and Schwindt.

Don't confuse us with facts. We're busy being OUTRAGED!

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

My view is when a player requests a trade, all NTCs should immediately be voided.

Unless it's Edmonton. Because it leads to hilarious situations like Dany Heatley requesting a trade from Ottawa but then vetoing a trade to Edmonton.