11-07-2023, 01:10 AM
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#9861
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What I would expect an offer from Washington to look like would be a couple of high end prospects that have lost a bit of their shine. Basically #6 and #7 in their system, Mantha to balance salaries and a first in 2025, where they have three 2nds that same year.
Anthony Mantha, Hendrix Lapierre (21 year old centre 0.5PPG in the AHL), Ryan Chesley (RD 2nd year NCAA) and 2025 1st. Not overwhelming, but some value. It would be great to get a Cristall or something, but I don't see it.
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11-07-2023, 01:35 AM
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#9862
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Franchise Player
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Curious, what/who would you guys want from Philly for Hanifin?
You might win a CP tootsie-pop if you're right 
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11-07-2023, 01:45 AM
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#9863
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Curious, what/who would you guys want from Philly for Hanifin?
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I still want Konecny on the Flames somehow.
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11-07-2023, 02:07 AM
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#9864
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by AC
I still want Konecny on the Flames somehow.
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I would think Konecny is off the table.
How about
Tippett, Walker and one of their 1sts
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Hanifin(Signed) and prospect
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11-07-2023, 02:35 AM
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#9865
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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FARABEE!!!!
plus Laughton and a first.
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11-07-2023, 06:45 AM
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#9866
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by butterfly
Yeah, that pick is gone as a result of trading a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for 24 games of O'Reilly. Ouch.
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This is why barring very good offers, the Flames would be best to hold on to most of their pending UFA's until closer to the trade deadline.
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11-07-2023, 06:56 AM
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#9867
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
he's nowhere as good as his brother. His challenge is that he's smaller and not a great skater. And he doesn't have the hockey sense that his brother has that allows him to make up for those weaknesses.
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In the tradition of Val Bure, Rob Neidermayer, Markus Granlund.
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11-07-2023, 06:59 AM
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#9868
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
Yeah, that pick is gone as a result of trading a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for 24 games of O'Reilly. Ouch.
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shades of Nick Foligno
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11-07-2023, 07:00 AM
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#9869
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
I would think Konecny is off the table.
How about
Tippett, Walker and one of their 1sts
for
Hanifin(Signed) and prospect
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That deal would be acceptable for me because it gets the team a young player and a 1st. Konency would be nice but I think they should see if he signs here as a UFA and try and get futures type packages for their guys.
Philly wouldn’t be looking to move their program forward that quickly would they? Seems like they are still in early stages of their build.
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11-07-2023, 07:33 AM
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#9870
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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That trade makes no sense for Philly.
If anyone wants Lindholm or Hanifin, especially teams that aren't considered a contender, they are going to wait until free agency to take a crack at them.
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11-07-2023, 08:02 AM
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#9871
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
That trade makes no sense for Philly.
If anyone wants Lindholm or Hanifin, especially teams that aren't considered a contender, they are going to wait until free agency to take a crack at them.
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Easy to say, but whoever trades for them at the deadline will very likely extend them.
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11-07-2023, 08:21 AM
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#9872
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Easy to say, but whoever trades for them at the deadline will very likely extend them.
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If they have the space to do so. Generally, contending teams don't have space and are using them for rentals, unless they really like the player. Hanifin doesn't screm to me a player that a rebuilding team is itching to get and paying assets for in order to sign him. I guess the extra year could help, especially with Hanifin's age but point still stands.
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11-07-2023, 09:05 AM
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#9873
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
If they have the space to do so. Generally, contending teams don't have space and are using them for rentals, unless they really like the player. Hanifin doesn't screm to me a player that a rebuilding team is itching to get and paying assets for in order to sign him. I guess the extra year could help, especially with Hanifin's age but point still stands.
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Columbus was one of the worst teams in the league and traded a 1st for Provorov and signed Severson to an 8 year deal. Philly could see Hanifin as a piece on their team for 8 years and they do have surplus assets from previous trades. I don’t see it but Hanifin could be viewed as a long term piece for anyone getting him. A team like Philly wouldn’t trade for him without that extension signed in advance.
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11-07-2023, 09:13 AM
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#9874
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Columbus was one of the worst teams in the league and traded a 1st for Provorov and signed Severson to an 8 year deal. Philly could see Hanifin as a piece on their team for 8 years and they do have surplus assets from previous trades. I don’t see it but Hanifin could be viewed as a long term piece for anyone getting him. A team like Philly wouldn’t trade for him without that extension signed in advance.
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Is that really a fair comparison? Columbus managed to get LA to RETAIN on Provorov, and also acquire the rights to Severson to give him that extra year to bring the cap number lower. Provorov has term and Columbus, with an already good prospect pool, felt they could afford to pay a 1st to get their defense better. I guess Gudbranson wasn't cutting it lol.
Like I said I could see Hanifin as a good trading piece but for a contender and not for Philly. I don't mind Konecny or the return posted above, but a third-party team would need to come in to give Philly the assets. There would have to be some serious contractual talks between Philly and Hanifin for Hanifin to consider signing there for 8 years. I think personally if I was Hanifin I would test the waters of free agency, see what team out there would give me the best deal. For Calgary's sake, just focus on getting the best return contending or no contending team, but most likely a contending team. I think Treliving is still going to go for him.
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11-07-2023, 09:20 AM
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#9875
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Curious, what/who would you guys want from Philly for Hanifin?
You might win a CP tootsie-pop if you're right |
Cant see Philly as a destination. They are in a rebuild. Why are they adding a pending ufa?
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11-07-2023, 09:27 AM
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#9876
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Is that really a fair comparison? Columbus managed to get LA to RETAIN on Provorov, and also acquire the rights to Severson to give him that extra year to bring the cap number lower. Provorov has term and Columbus, with an already good prospect pool, felt they could afford to pay a 1st to get their defense better. I guess Gudbranson wasn't cutting it lol.
Like I said I could see Hanifin as a good trading piece but for a contender and not for Philly. I don't mind Konecny or the return posted above, but a third-party team would need to come in to give Philly the assets. There would have to be some serious contractual talks between Philly and Hanifin for Hanifin to consider signing there for 8 years. I think personally if I was Hanifin I would test the waters of free agency, see what team out there would give me the best deal. For Calgary's sake, just focus on getting the best return contending or no contending team, but most likely a contending team. I think Treliving is still going to go for him.
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Not sure how it is not a fair comparison. A team that was at the bottom of the standings paid a futures price to add a Dman and also signed an older UFA to a max term deal. Hanifin fits a now and future piece for a team as he is 27 when his contract kicks in. I don’t think they are a realistic target but crazier things have happened than a rebuilding team acquiring a mid 20’s Dman.
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11-07-2023, 10:03 AM
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#9877
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by The Original FFIV
Cant see Philly as a destination. They are in a rebuild. Why are they adding a pending ufa?
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To sign him to a long term deal. He is young enough and they are not far from turning the corner.
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11-07-2023, 10:04 AM
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#9878
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
That trade makes no sense for Philly.
If anyone wants Lindholm or Hanifin, especially teams that aren't considered a contender, they are going to wait until free agency to take a crack at them.
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I don't think either guy sniffs free agency. Whomever deals for those two players are young to re-sign them imo.
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11-07-2023, 10:08 AM
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#9879
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
To sign him to a long term deal. He is young enough and they are not far from turning the corner.
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The Flyers have barely started rebuilding - the 2022 draft was their first top-10 pick in years. They’re seeing a bump because they have their top two forwards (age 30 and 34) back after missing all of last season. But they seem committed to the rebuild. No need to short-cut it already.
Hanifin and Konecny are the same age. If the Flyers feel Hanifin is young enough to be part of the solution long-term, then so is Konecny.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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11-07-2023, 10:11 AM
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#9880
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The Flyers have barely started rebuilding - the 2022 draft was their first top-10 pick in years. They’re seeing a bump because they have their top two forwards (age 30 and 34) back after missing all of last season. But they seem committed to the rebuild. No need to short-cut it already.
Hanifin and Konecny are the same age. If the Flyers feel Hanifin is young enough to be part of the solution long-term, then so is Konecny.
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I don't see Konecny going anywhere either.
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