11-06-2023, 06:30 PM
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#9841
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by Sofa GM
This year is their window. Having to sign Nylander or move on for nothing at the draft other than prospects isn’t going to help them. Markstrom and Tanev give them a chance.
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Yeah but Treliving's always moved picks over top prospects.
Top prospects extend their window... picks are a lottery ticket.
His MO has always been to swap out top prospects for picks in trade talks.
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11-06-2023, 06:31 PM
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#9842
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
Flames don't need a guy like Brodie back, Leafs won't be looking to move him out either.
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They would be able to pickup a much more reliable veteran than Brodie at the deadline for significantly less salary than Brodie.
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11-06-2023, 06:37 PM
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#9843
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Franchise Player
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You might be able to get a guy like Nick Robertson who is talented, but often injured, and is being passed in the org by other prospects.
Hanifin for Robertson+1st+cap dump.
#doit.
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11-06-2023, 06:37 PM
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#9844
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Doubt we would get any big name prospects from the Leafs.
Treliving was known to refuse any top prospects in any trades during his time with the Flames. Notable exception is Fox, but he didn't want to sign here.
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Outside of this year Treliving did not draft any of those prospects so perhaps he is not as attached. He also knows exactly what he is getting in players he acquired from the Flames so more comfort there.
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11-06-2023, 06:39 PM
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#9845
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
You might be able to get a guy like Nick Robertson who is talented, but often injured, and is being passed in the org by other prospects.
Hanifin for Robertson+1st+cap dump.
#doit.
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I was wondering if Robertson was a target and also if he is any good or just has a really good brother?
1st+Robertson+Klinberg/Brodie would work for me for Hanifin. The Flames could potentially flip Klingberg/Brodie again before the deadline if the deal happened relatively soon
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11-06-2023, 06:41 PM
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#9846
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
You might be able to get a guy like Nick Robertson who is talented, but often injured, and is being passed in the org by other prospects.
Hanifin for Robertson+1st+cap dump.
#doit.
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Robertson is highly overrated, highly doubt he sticks with an NHL roster. Unless the trade happens soon where that cap dump could be turned into another asset at the deadline then that isn’t a great return.
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11-06-2023, 06:47 PM
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#9847
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I was wondering if Robertson was a target and also if he is any good or just has a really good brother?
1st+Robertson+Klinberg/Brodie would work for me for Hanifin. The Flames could potentially flip Klingberg/Brodie again before the deadline if the deal happened relatively soon
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he's nowhere as good as his brother. His challenge is that he's smaller and not a great skater. And he doesn't have the hockey sense that his brother has that allows him to make up for those weaknesses.
But i would take him as part of a bigger package, as in the right environment and opportunity, there could be something there.
at times he's looked good.
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11-06-2023, 07:20 PM
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#9848
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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Originally Posted by Sofa GM
Matthew Knies
2024 1st
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Originally Posted by butterfly
Do you think the Leafs would trade Easton Cowan?
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these are the items that we want if trading with the Leafs....i know it's obvious but otherwise why bother?
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*Disclaimer: I am a "glass half full" Flames fan. 
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11-06-2023, 07:56 PM
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#9849
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I was wondering if Robertson was a target and also if he is any good or just has a really good brother?
1st+Robertson+Klinberg/Brodie would work for me for Hanifin. The Flames could potentially flip Klingberg/Brodie again before the deadline if the deal happened relatively soon
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Klingberg has no value at the deadline, at least there is the possibility that the Flames could get something for Brodie.
If Hampus Lindholm is the comparable to what the Flames could get for Hanifin that package is a lot less than what the Ducks got for Lindholm.
They got a former 1st round pick dman in his D+5 year, a 1st and two seconds.
Flames would be getting a former 2nd round pick in his D+5 year and a 1st.
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11-06-2023, 07:57 PM
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#9850
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Yeah but Treliving's always moved picks over top prospects.
Top prospects extend their window... picks are a lottery ticket.
His MO has always been to swap out top prospects for picks in trade talks.
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This is a good point. That has always been his style. How about this:
To Toronto:
Hanifin
To Calgary:
2024 1st round pick (lottery protected)
2024 2nd round pick
2025 2nd/3rd round pick (conditional on playoff success and games played by Hanifin)
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11-06-2023, 07:59 PM
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#9851
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
This is a good point. That has always been his style. How about this:
To Toronto:
Hanifin
To Calgary:
2024 1st round pick (lottery protected)
2024 2nd round pick
2025 2nd/3rd round pick (conditional on playoff success and games played by Hanifin)
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Brad does not lottery protect his picks in trades for dmen.
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11-06-2023, 08:02 PM
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#9852
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
This is a good point. That has always been his style. How about this:
To Toronto:
Hanifin
To Calgary:
2024 1st round pick (lottery protected)
2024 2nd round pick
2025 2nd/3rd round pick (conditional on playoff success and games played by Hanifin)
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Toronto has 1st round picks in 2024 and 2026, other than those two they have no picks in the top 2 rounds for the next 3 years.
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11-06-2023, 09:10 PM
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#9853
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Niemela is a really interesting prospect.
Would like to see him in any return with the leafs.
His value would probably be equal to a 2nd.
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11-06-2023, 09:31 PM
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#9854
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Just my opinion, but I think Nick Robertson falls into the "overrated" category- though it may be a bit too early to say that definitively, as he's barely 22. He reminds me a bit of Matthew Phillips.
I think we have enough smurfs on the team, and it would be a MAJOR coup if we could pry Matt Knies away from them- he's going to be a star power-forward. Fraser Minten would also be amazing.
Last edited by Sandman; 11-06-2023 at 09:33 PM.
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11-06-2023, 10:17 PM
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#9855
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Franchise Player
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Anybody else think the Caps are going to chase Lindholm if Backstrom is really done for good? I imagine he will got on ltir until his deal runs out next year but he sounds like he is pondering injury retirement and that is a team that is all in with their window dwindling. if Backstrom is done they can probably lock up lindholm given how big Backstroms cap hit was.
They actually have a decent prospect in Leonard to build a package for a star around as well. Something arpund Leonard and a young center like protas if the flames are really going to rebuild would really give the rebuild a huge jump start
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11-06-2023, 10:26 PM
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#9856
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Franchise Player
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No way they give up a guy like Leonard. He’s their future
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11-06-2023, 10:37 PM
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#9857
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
MOD EDIT: Removed over the top rumors. Do not want here.
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Ya, maybe you should have done that in the first place, there are literally pages of it in the Gaudreau thread.
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11-06-2023, 10:50 PM
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#9858
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
No way they give up a guy like Leonard. He’s their future
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He seems to be a good prospect but, he's still just a prospect and I'd be surprised if he plays for the caps. With ovechkins age and their whole core having about 2-4 years left together won't be keeping their powder dry... never mind that their owner is super aggressive but ovechkin aint going to sit through a retool at his age. And I also think that trading an 8th overall pick for a 1st line center is a bit low value wise but accept rhat today everyone falls all over themselves for prospects who might not even be good nhlers.
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11-06-2023, 11:13 PM
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#9859
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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I think Ovechkin definitely would sit through a re-tool. He got a Cup, and he's fixated on the scoring record now. He's likely quite happy with the arrangement of being a Cap til retirement and having the team do everything to get him goals.
Focusing on getting him goals could actually go hand in hand quite nicely with tanking/rebuilding.
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11-07-2023, 12:33 AM
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#9860
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Toronto has 1st round picks in 2024 and 2026, other than those two they have no picks in the top 2 rounds for the next 3 years.
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Yeah, that pick is gone as a result of trading a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for 24 games of O'Reilly. Ouch.
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