[PGT] Flames lose Heritage Classic - Oilers 5 Flames 2

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1718821461941715340

This isn’t a good team and they won’t turn it around

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

93 points vs 45 point pace.

What else explains the drop?

I mean, it's a tad early for points pace no? I highly set a record for for the lowest points ever

[Jimdon]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Honestly what would you rather have RIGHT NOW

Toffoli signed for 4 years at 6M/Year

or

3rd Round pick

You have to pick one. I bet 90% of Flames fans take the pick

Is this just something you made up in your head? Like it was one or the other?
Reality check, nobody has signed Toffoli for that contract and he was worth way more than what they got for him.

[robertsfan]

Vintage 2011 Calgary Flames. Hope they do it right this year and get that lottery pick

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1718821461941715340

This isn’t a good team and they won’t turn it around

"coward won't face the media"
"liar its all BS"

not directed at you but what is he supposed to say

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Icon

Can we just invite Daryl into the room to yell at them for old times sake? I don't think it will help or change anything, but would just be nice to know at least someone yelled at them

I don't even think Sutter yelled much. He would be bag skating these losers into the ground, though. Flames would be on their fifth bag skate under Sutter I bet.

Huska on the other hand is singing kumbaya with the boys. Probably? Honestly I feel for the guy. What a mess. Just don't throw a stick Gulutzan style.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

93 points vs 45 point pace.

What else explains the drop?

Sutter is an objectively great coach but I don't care if you are the best coach in the world - you cant treat people (primarily support staff) the way he did and remain employed

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean, it's a tad early for points pace no? I highly set a record for for the lowest points ever

The only differences are (1) taffoli and (2) Sutter

At what point is it not too early to say, (1) they have had a super easy relative strength schedule (2) they suck much more than last year and (3) it's pretty much the same team as last year except Sutter

Like okay...they won't finish with 45 points. But they're not finishing with anywhere near 93.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Romanticizing Sutter because of the start is ridiculous.

Him staying might be better than a Huska-run team. But it's marginal. And there'd be a distinct possibility of ending up in no man's land again with the worst lottery odds, which is the worst place for a team to end up.

I don't miss being embarrassed by the coach's antisocial behavior and NFG attitude towards the hardworking staff.

[Reggie Dunlop]

We've got a lot of losses.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Those guys have to agree
Why would they want to be part of this
For several reasons the terrible start is the best thing to happen

Because if the flames alleged offer to Lindholm is still on the table, it's significantly more than he's going to get on the open market. I'm not saying Lindholm isn't competitive, but he doesn't strike me as a "winning above all" kind of guy that is chasing wins over money.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jimdon

Is this just something you made up in your head? Like it was one or the other?
Reality check, nobody has signed Toffoli for that contract and he was worth way more than what they got for him.

Your take is kinda changing...at first you were saying they should have kept him because he wanted to stay and he's lighting it up

Players like Hall were being given away in the summer

Even if its a "bad trade" it was better than signing him. Third round pick is unknown

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

We've got a lot of losses.

Its a very bad hockey team right now...very bad.

[Zamboniman]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

We've got a lot of losses.

All we can get.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by robertsfan

Vintage 2011 Calgary Flames. Hope they do it right this year and get that lottery pick

Um, that team shut out Montreal in the outdoor game tho?

[PepsiFree]

I’m fine with the Flames tanking and entering a rebuild even if it’s one they’re basically forced to enter, but can y’all just enjoy that at least? Enjoy losing! The prattling on about Sutter and Toffoli is obnoxious, especially if you’re just going to make up reasons why the former got fired and context around the trade of the latter.

[musth]

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

The only differences are (1) taffoli and (2) Sutter

At what point is it not too early to say, (1) they have had a super easy relative strength schedule (2) they suck much more than last year and (3) it's pretty much the same team as last year except Sutter

Like okay...they won't finish with 45 points. But they're not finishing with anywhere near 93.

If they continue this pace they will be a very different roster by years end. I just can't imagine which of these games they would have won with Sutter behind the bench. The score 2 or less a game, its a 3-2 league

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Romanticizing Sutter because of the start is ridiculous.

Him staying might be better than a Huska-run team. But it's marginal. And there'd be a distinct possibility of ending up in no man's land again with the worst lottery odds, which is the worst place for a team to end up.

I don't miss being embarrassed by the coach's antisocial behavior and NFG attitude towards the hardworking staff.

This is much better. 31st in the league.

What support staff are we talking about here? can you name the support staff positions he treated poorly by ignoring or being condescending towards them? Are we talking about people like nutritionists and team doctors and massage therapists?

Or are we talking about the various coaches that are still around and playing a bigger role in this now dog #### team?

[Burning Beard]

Yeah I'm glad that the team seems to be forced to rebuild and wouldn't want Sutter back to steer this ship. It's just interesting to see what he was correct on hockey wise after everything seemed to be pinned on him on the ice as well as off.