10-27-2023, 03:49 PM
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#521
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chedder
Monahan was every bit as good a pick as Tkachuk. In his first 6 seasons as a Flame he scored 363 points to Tkachuk's 382. Then Monahan scored 99 more in his last 3 seasons battling injuries (and Tkachuk left). All that while playing a more difficult and important position.
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He was great off the bat. But I suspect he'd have never broken 100 like Tkachuk has twice now. His speed and position and playing style kind of ensured he'd never play full seasons later in his career. The discussion was "elite" and I don't think Monahan would have ever been considered elite.
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10-27-2023, 05:45 PM
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#522
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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A sports team can sell wins or sell hope.
This franchise has neither in its current form.
I don't think a new barn will fix this mess.
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10-27-2023, 05:51 PM
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#523
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
A sports team can sell wins or sell hope.
This franchise has neither in its current form.
I don't think a new barn will fix this mess.
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Agreed. Who wants to pay more and continue to watch an inferior product.
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10-27-2023, 06:01 PM
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#524
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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What would a guy like Rasmus Andersson bring back in a trade I wonder?
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10-27-2023, 06:17 PM
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#525
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
What would a guy like Rasmus Andersson bring back in a trade I wonder?
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You can probably look at the Chychrun return.
1st + 2nd + 2nd.
Defencemen in that tier, with term left, generally seem to always return about that or an equivalent to that.
It's also why I think Hanifin is going to return a 1st + 2nd (or equivelant), because he doesn't have term remaining.
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10-27-2023, 06:19 PM
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#526
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
What would a guy like Rasmus Andersson bring back in a trade I wonder?
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He would have a huge demand.
Essentially all the guys you don't want to move will have a market and vice versa.
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10-27-2023, 06:36 PM
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#527
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
You can probably look at the Chychrun return.
1st + 2nd + 2nd.
Defencemen in that tier, with term left, generally seem to always return about that or an equivalent to that.
It's also why I think Hanifin is going to return a 1st + 2nd (or equivelant), because he doesn't have term remaining.
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I think Andersson is worth more than Chychrun. He’d be the best dman traded in a long time. He isn’t a top pairing D. He is a #1D
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10-27-2023, 06:37 PM
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#528
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Rasmus Andersson for Dawson Mercer.
Who says no?
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10-27-2023, 06:41 PM
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#529
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Rasmus Andersson for Dawson Mercer.
Who says no?
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The Flames, easily IMO.
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10-27-2023, 06:51 PM
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#530
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
I think Andersson is worth more than Chychrun. He’d be the best dman traded in a long time. He isn’t a top pairing D. He is a #1D
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He's not a #1 D on any playoff team.
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10-27-2023, 06:53 PM
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#531
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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If you trade Andersson, you might as well trade all of the pre-Huberdeau and pre-Kadri players. I can't imagine it is good for the locker room and team morale when you have to start trading the long time Flames because the two new guys aren't pulling their weight and are untradeable.
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10-27-2023, 06:59 PM
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#532
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
He's not a #1 D on any playoff team.
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I’ll agree to disagree. He’s not Makar but he’d be #1 on the Leafs, Florida, Edmonton, Minnesota, Seattle. Toss up on others.
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10-27-2023, 07:05 PM
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#533
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
I think Andersson is worth more than Chychrun. He’d be the best dman traded in a long time. He isn’t a top pairing D. He is a #1D
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I think that’s probably a bit of a Flames fan bias.
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10-27-2023, 07:06 PM
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#534
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
I’ll agree to disagree. He’s not Makar but he’d be #1 on the Leafs, Florida, Edmonton, Minnesota, Seattle. Toss up on others.
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I said playoff teams.
He's not better than Reiley or Brodin.
CZ was bang on. If the Chychrun deal is on offer, you take it immediately.
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10-27-2023, 07:15 PM
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#535
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
I said playoff teams.
He's not better than Reiley or Brodin.
CZ was bang on. If the Chychrun deal is on offer, you take it immediately.
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I’d take him over either of those two
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10-27-2023, 07:17 PM
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#536
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Andersson is not a #1 on a contender. Andersson doesn't make a playoff team a contender and doesn't make a bubble team a playoff team.
He's a really good player but he's not elite.
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10-27-2023, 07:20 PM
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#537
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#1 Goaltender
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If Montour's last year isn't a mirage, I'd take him over Andersson pretty easily. Remains to be seen of course but he's just a more physically and offensively gifted version of Rasmus. And I'm a big fan of his.
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10-27-2023, 07:28 PM
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#538
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Rasmus Andersson for Dawson Mercer.
Who says no?
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NJ easily.
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10-27-2023, 07:45 PM
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#539
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
NJ easily.
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What??? Are you stat watching the guy. Andersson is a top pairing D in the league. Mercer may be a second line winger.
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10-27-2023, 08:06 PM
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#540
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
What??? Are you stat watching the guy. Andersson is a top pairing D in the league. Mercer may be a second line winger.
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A second line centre on NJ, a first line centre on other teams.
Marner turned 22 today, Anderson turned 27 today.
Teams would line up to get Mercer.
Anderson is good, but he is a finished product.
Mercer has way more trade value.
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