[PGT] Flames lose to Wings 6-2

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Meh, again this is a borderline playoff team. The concern is with attendance falling and a new arena being approved. What does the future hold? The Flames desperately need high end picks the next few years.

I thought the deal with the taxpayer handing over almost half a billion dollars to the Flames owners was that they had to stay in Calgary for 35 years? If they have to stay I don’t think low attendance should concern anyone.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I would argue with the OP, but that was an absolute trash display of hockey today. Brutal execution and effort. Terrible passing. Weak battles for pucks. Easily defended. Atrocious goaltending.

Honestly, that game is a wake up call to the entire organization. I give them a few home games to see if anything different happens, but this team looks completely unprepared to compete most nights. Big changes are needed, and I would have no problem tearing it down to the studs because the kids are the ones who actually looked decent today. None of the vets other than Backlund looked like they gave a damn.

I can handle working hard in a low event boring system. I can handle river hockey where you trade chances with the other team. What I cannot handle is low event offense and high event defense. The worst of both worlds is in this team right now, and I'm starting to question whether or not Huska can get them to play a cohesive game in his system. It looks really bleak.

Fix it or blow it up. Keeping things to the status quo is not going to work.

[FireGilbert]

Was cautiously optimistic after the first 4 games but the past 2 have taken any wind out of the sails.

Biggest problem is the lack of scoring and they could have won in Columbus with a timely goal. No idea why the line blender came out today and why Huberdeau and Mangiapane are not stapled together at all times.

Vladar hurt them today and this game was much closer with competent NHL tending. Giving Vladar the backup spot based solely on his contract status is such a Flames thing to do and won't help them win any games when the offensive margin for error is so small.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Meh, again this is a borderline playoff team. The concern is with attendance falling and a new arena being approved. What does the future hold? The Flames desperately need high end picks the next few years.

i think leaving the unlucky history from 90-present day minus a couple lucky runs, of the dome behind to a fresh start with modern facilities will be a good thing.

[Hockey_Ninja]

I honestly feel bad for young Flames fans that are getting into hockey. I was 10 when 04 happened and I got to watch a good chunk of Iggy and Kipper’s primes. Then afterwards came Gaudreau, Monahan and Tkachuk. Who’s the star players they have to look up to?

[Bongsong]

Annoying people on here

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

I cant seem to recall, when does Montreal get our 1st round pick? 24 or 25? cant recall the specifics. Man, Treliving left this team as a horrible mess, Milburyesque.

*Conditions: 1. If CGY’s 2024 1st round pick is between 20 and 32, MTL can take that pick instead. Result: TBD

Scenario: In the event CGY receives FLA’s 2025 1st round pick:
1. If both CGY AND FLA’s picks are NOT top 10, MTL will receive the better of the CGY and FLA 2025 1st round picks. Result: TBD

2. If CGY’s pick is top 10, AND FLA’s pick is NOT top 10, MTL receives FLA’s pick. Result: TBD


Scenario: In the event CGY does NOT receive FLA’s 1st round pick:

Sub-scenario: CGY’s pick is NOT top 10
1. MTL will receive the CGY pick, and
2. If FLA’s pick is not top 10, is a better pick than CGY’s, and was transferred to another team due to prior conditions, MTL will also receive CGY’s 2025 4th round pick.
Result: TBD

Sub-scenario: CGY’s pick is top 10:
1. If CGY’s pick is 1st overall, MTL will receive CGY’s 2025 3rd, and the better of CGY and FLA’s 2026 1st round pick. Result: TBD
2. If CGY’s pick is 2nd to 10th, MTL receives CGY’s 2025 1st round pick. Result: TBD

I wish the team put as much effort on the ice as Tre did in the conditions of the trade.

[dissentowner]

The team on paper is fine, the big problem with this team is that having a good head coach is absolutely key if you want to compete to win. Last year was a disaster, we had a legendary coach who created a toxic environment and made poor decisions. You have a chance after removing him to right the ship and instead Conroy got hoodwinked by the good game that Ryan Huska talks and instead of getting a quality coach they dumpster dive and hire the defensive minded assistant who has done F all. I said after Sutter was gone they needed a year coach that could be more creative offensively to fit this roster, like Andrew Brunette. Instead they hire a guy that when he was the head coach for them in the AHL just stifled the development of all the young forwards. That is exactly why when we were doing the head coach search I kept saying anybody but Huska. He is great at talking a great game but he can't coach one. I do wanted him to prove me wrong and maybe he still can, lots of time but man, trying to compete this year and they hire Ryan Fn Huska, just mind boggling.

[BagoPucks]

This team was always going to be a borderline playoff team based on talent and past performace. So the overreaction is more of a reflection of human short term memory and lack of logic than the teams ability. Hope we dont have such over reactions to losses as there will be many

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

What a stupid thread title but not surprising its this poster doing it.

Mods will sometimes refraine somebody's post; Wish they would do it with topics like this.

[CGY12]

Hurry up Craig and lock up the core long term.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

As Huska is trying to establish a system, it’s probably a time to ride Markstrom. Going forward, Vladar is not going to be the number 1 so it’s no point rotating him in that often.

Markstrom gives them the best chance right now to establish a system.

Can anyone explain to me what this system that Huska is trying to establish is? To me it looks like the system is turn pucks over and then not defend. I don't think that system equals success.

[Two Fivenagame]

Kadri -4 tonight.

Nice pickup Bradley

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The team on paper is fine, the big problem with this team is that having a good head coach is absolutely key if you want to compete to win. Last year was a disaster, we had a legendary coach who created a toxic environment and made poor decisions. You have a chance after removing him to right the ship and instead Conroy got hoodwinked by the good game that Ryan Huska talks and instead of getting a quality coach they dumpster dive and hire the defensive minded assistant who has done F all. I said after Sutter was gone they needed a year coach that could be more creative offensively to fit this roster, like Andrew Brunette. Instead they hire a guy that when he was the head coach for them in the AHL just stifled the development of all the young forwards. That is exactly why when we were doing the head coach search I kept saying anybody but Huska. He is great at talking a great game but he can't coach one. I do wanted him to prove me wrong and maybe he still can, lots of time but man, trying to compete this year and they hire Ryan Fn Huska, just mind boggling.

I won’t argue that Huska is/was/will be a bad hire.

But this roster on paper is not fine. They do not have the skill or speed required to win in the NHL.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I wish the team put as much effort on the ice as Tre did in the conditions of the trade.

It would be amazing if the sub scenario 2 happened and the Flames gave up a guy like Tim Stutzle to lose the Monahan contract to sign Kadri.

[dirk diggler]

the only reason anyone wanted Brunette was to get the 10.5 million dollar man to actually look like a decent NHL'er. But yeah there might have been a better choice, but i am not taking these uninspired players off the hook. what a mentally weak team.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

Disappointing game. The level of interest by individual flames players in the second and third looked inversely proportional to their age.

I want them playing to figure out the system, but can’t build that with the top dman out for 4 games. I hope they can keep their wits about them during this stretch instead of taking it as a break.

Fixed your post

[Ferarri]

Give me a rebuilding team any day over this current iteration of the Flames. I can accept losing as long as it’s accompanied with hope and excitement for the future.

The teams “like ability” factor is virtually a zero as far as I’m concerned. If I could sum up the group in one word in would be ‘meh.’ I think that should be the most concerning part moving forward for the organization. Apathy is taking over and if it’s turning away passionate fans then just imagine what it will do to casual observers.

My favourite part of this team is Craig Conroy and Jarome Iginla. You got to believe deep down they are frustrated with this group. Zero emotion and passion from the guys on the ice and just lacklustre effort all the way around.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Just once I would like to see our top line dominate a game like Detroit's did.
I don't think we'll see a single game from Huberdeau or Kadri this season that match Debrincat's tonight.

[WhiteTiger]

Well, that wasn't much fun to watch. >.<