[PGT] Calgary Flames 2 Washington Capitals 3 (OTL - Shootout)

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

As long as we don't start Markstrom for more than 30 games we are making the playoffs playing in this pisspoor division.

It's what we do in playoffs that matters.

Most people think it's the best division in hockey

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Phillips is on pace for 82 points.

Matthews is on pace for 164 goals.

Markstrom is on pace for another sub-.900 save percentage.

If we’re dismissing the first 3 games of this season as an acceptable sample size, then we can’t cherry pick stats.

Well everyone is, it goes both ways

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

People Stones age are usually getting paid for past performance and his career high was 65.

Eichel was potential his career high has been 82 but hes settling in as a PPG looks like.

Its 1 million difference between him and Stone and .5 for him and Eichel and he has outproduced them both.

I am strictly talking about production.

Also, Calgary tax

Gaudreau would be making 10.5 here too

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Most people think it's the best division in hockey

lol. not with the sharks, ducks and canucks in this division. LA and the Crack are going to fall back this year. It's only the Oilerz and Knights.

But once again it's all about goaltending. we are 100% making the playoffs if Markstrom plays in 30 games or less. If he plays more than 30 we still have about a 65 to 70% chance of making the playoffs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

lol. not with the sharks, ducks and canucks in this division. LA and the Crack are going to fall back this year. It's only the Oilerz and Knights.

But once again it's all about goaltending. we are 100% making the playoffs if Markstrom plays in 30 games or less. If he plays more than 30 we still have about a 65 to 70% chance of making the playoffs.

LA and Seattle made the playoffs with worse goaltending and goal against last year.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

LA and Seattle made the playoffs with worse goaltending and goal against last year.

Both of those teams have the star power that the Flames don't.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Both of those teams have the star power that the Flames don't.

Who’s the star power in Seattle? Lol

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

LA and Seattle made the playoffs with worse goaltending and goal against last year.

Yes. Which is why we will for sure make the playoffs this year. No matter what the chicken littles tell you in the Game Thread. lol

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Who’s the star power in Seattle? Lol

Eberle! Remember the time when he hopped over Ian White in the opening game and they replayed that highlight for 2 months on TSN?

[GioforPM]

Florida is 1-2. Calgary is 1-1-1.

Lindholm and Mangiapane are both tied with Tkachuk in points and ahead in goals (Huberdeau is tied with Barkov and one behind Tkachuk and so is Ruzicka). Let's not get carried away on the team pessimism quite yet.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Florida is 1-2. Calgary is 1-1-1.

Lindholm and Mangiapane are both tied with Tkachuk in points and ahead in goals (Huberdeau is tied with Barkov and one behind Tkachuk and so is Ruzicka). Let's not get carried away on the team pessimism quite yet.

Too late for that.

Threads are being bumped already.

79 games left what is the point time to mail it in.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Why even have post game threads if you guys are gonna whine everytime someone points out anything negative they saw?

Might as well petition Bingo to shut the site down until game 20 if we can't talk about negative aspects of a loss where the team blew a 2-0 lead.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Why even have post game threads if you guys are gonna whine everytime someone points out anything negative they saw?

Might as well petition Bingo to shut the site down until game 20 if we can't talk about negative aspects of a loss where the team blew a 2-0 lead.

What exactly was the negative thing people saw that was being commented on? All I see is the same old stuff that had nothing to do with the actual game.

[1qqaaz]

It's interesting how healthy many of the Flames have been.
Mangiapane has the 5th longest ironman streak in the league.
Backlund is 12th. Coleman is 15th.
Dube up there as well.

[Bingo]

I think anyone saying the team is playing poorly or the same as last year is jumping to wrong conclusions early.

There is plenty to hang on to if you're an optimist, especially in 5 of the 6 periods we've seen on this road trip.

Having said that I have similar concerns for the current team's ability to finish, and the makeup of their roster going forward. They could very well be better in how they play but still not succeed because they can't finish at an average NHL rate.

And I get the concerns of where this is going ... Kadri and Huberdeau are scaring the hell out of me, and I'm leery of adding a Lindholm contract to the bonfire.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

What exactly was the negative thing people saw that was being commented on? All I see is the same old stuff that had nothing to do with the actual game.

I think that game re-emphasized that the Flames don’t have a forward that is a game breaker and the roster is a collection of complementary players with varying levels of good. There isn’t anyone they can toss on the ice in a do or die situation that will get it closed down. They’ll need to hope they can depth their way to offence and ride a hot goalie to go anywhere. Doesn’t help that Markstrom’s second goal was an absolute stinker.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I'm leery of adding a Lindholm contract to the bonfire.

I’m leaning this way more and more. Trade him and some other UFAs and pray that you hit on some picks or get a Forsberg/Suzuki return. I don’t think he is the difference in going deep or not.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Huberdeau would have had more points and more minuses there in all likelihood.

just saying people are having delusions of grandeur when it comes to Gaudreau...he was equally poor to Huberdeau last season
"Second last in the league" is supposed to be a pro Gaudreau argument lol? I thought he went there to help them win not make them worse

Huberdeau played a pretty solid defensive game last season...Gaudreau floated and cheated for points, his coach even called him out on it multiple times

Does mediocre defensive play make a $10.5M AAV worthwhile? Sorry, but when you're making mega bucks you are expected to produce.

At this point I'll take the cheating and floating from Huberdeau if it means we get something close to elite scoring. Trying and working hard is an expectation of any player and not nearly enough.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think that game re-emphasized that the Flames don’t have a forward that is a game breaker and the roster is a collection of complementary players with varying levels of good. There isn’t anyone they can toss on the ice in a do or die situation that will get it closed down. They’ll need to hope they can depth their way to offence and ride a hot goalie to go anywhere. Doesn’t help that Markstrom’s second goal was an absolute stinker.

So, that's a game comment - I guess, though it's still about the general team and not a game. And it's a comment that was made in 2020, 2019, and after the 2021 2nd round exit.

I think Huberdeau will round into form and do some great things, myself. Thing about "game breaker" is - if you list the game breakers in the NHL, a lot of them have had less success than a lot of inferior guys on better balanced teams. I don't think Eichel or Stone or Marchessault have a lot more talent than Huberdeau, Lindholm and Kadri. Eichel was PPG, Marchessault and Stone far less in the regular season. But they also have Stephenson, Barbashev, Karlsson, Pietrangelo, Reilly, Theodore, Roy, etc.

Let's see if Huska can get them playing a good game.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Does mediocre defensive play make a $10.5M AAV worthwhile? Sorry, but when you're making mega bucks you are expected to produce.

At this point I'll take the cheating and floating from Huberdeau if it means we get something close to elite scoring. Trying and working hard is an expectation of any player and not nearly enough.

This is pretty out of context...we were talking about Gaudreau and Huberdeau BOTH sucking last season

Gaudreau didn't have elite scoring and he sucked defensively

Huberdeau has also played 3 games at his 10.5M salary and is PPG so maybe, just maybe, people are jumping the gun