You Know What Really Grinds My Gears? Now with 3x more gears...

[Locke]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

If the people you're talking about are adults then their parents can't MAKE them stay home if they truly don't want to. They might not be willing to pay for them to live elsewhere but they can't force them to stay either.

True, but you get the idea. Parents have a lot of influence on their kids. Some more than others.

I s### you not...I know of a family who forced both of their daughters to 'force' their husbands into selling their individual houses, giving the girls' parents the proceeds so they could buy a Compound where all of the families could live together.

And they did it.

Crazy things happen.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Why keep the room theirs as long as possible if you're paying a mortgage on a different house they're living in, in the same city no less? Doesn't make any sense.

If the plan is to sell the place when they're done, why not just put a down payment on a house wherever they plan on going to school?

It makes perfect sense. Life is unpredictable. They're going to have a house I'll put the down payment on and they'll be responsible for renting out the rooms. Keeping a safe place for them at home is considerate. Maybe they'll need mom and dad and their comfortable little rooms after a break up, if they get sick, if they're stressed out...who knows? If it's not needed I won't keep it forever like some weird mausoleum, but until I'm sure they're gone, settled and not coming back I'm going to have a spot here for them.

I think buying the house also scratches the independence itch - it's for sure healthy to get some space from your parents as a young adult.

For a gap year, I'd love to see them move to a ski hill. I moved to lake Louise to work for a winter the day after I turned 18...it was so fkn awesome and fun. They're both snowboard instructors and they have expressed an interest, so we'll see. I know they're feeling pressure to go straight to university as that seems to be the plan for a lot of their friends, so I'm just leaving that up to them.

As for a gap year after university...I'm 100% fine with that and I don't think it's a detriment to career prospects. Will some employers not like that? Well, I guess so, evidenced by people saying that in this thread; however, I wouldn't let that dissuade them at all. For every employer that would look down on that, I'm sure there are a dozen who would find it interesting and view it as an asset that somebody would take the opportunity to go on an adventure or do something interesting before starting adulthood. I know I would and I've hired a hundred people over my career.

I just think going away for university is a waste of money. Money isn't everything, true, but I grew up many years poor af and having money is a bazillion times better than being stressed about money. Could I afford to send them away? Sure. Will I? Not a chance...I'll take the money that would cost and set them up with a huge headstart in life that'll pay dividends their entire life with less debt, less interest paid and more financial security. Just like a big wedding...I'll never contribute a cent to one of those lavish money wasters. I'll pay for a justice of the peace and a nice dinner. Boom, done. Shouldn't cost more than $2k. I can't stand to see money wasted.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

You know what I’ll never waste my money on? Kids. I never have to worry about sending them away for school or saving for tuition either.

By not having kids at all, I spent all the extra money they would have needed for university on lavish vacations, fancy meals and luxury items for my home.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

It's basically impossible to get into a walk-in medical clinic, apparently. My doctor left the country and I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement yet. So I figure there must be a walk in clinic somewhere in the city that can see me, right? Not a chance, most are full by 6 and others don't even pick up the phone. I guess I have to go to the ER? Kind of at a loss...

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It's basically impossible to get into a walk-in medical clinic, apparently. My doctor left the country and I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement yet. So I figure there must be a walk in clinic somewhere in the city that can see me, right? Not a chance, most are full by 6 and others don't even pick up the phone. I guess I have to go to the ER? Kind of at a loss...

Do you have a particular set of skills that will assist you in finding him?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

No, and if I had a nickel for every time my doctor left the country permanently I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice and I'm starting to wonder if it's something I'm doing wrong.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure being able to breathe is important so hopefully I can figure something out here.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

No, and if I had a nickel for every time my doctor left the country permanently I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice and I'm starting to wonder if it's something I'm doing wrong.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure being able to breathe is important so hopefully I can figure something out here.

I dont know you personally, but I'll tell you what happens a lot in my line of work.

"Hey...can you take on my Business? My Accountant Retired."

- Oh they did, did they? Whats their name? *Google shows they are up and running.*

My favourite one happened just this year.

"My Accountant went home to India, she took all of my documents with her and then when she got to India she burned them all!"

Yes. Thats insane.



Nothing to do with you or your situation mind you.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Locke

Depending on the type of Engineering why not stay in Calgary? U of C Engineering is one of the best in the Country.

*spits on ground*

And I say that as a U of C Business student, sworn enemies of the U of C Engineering students!

Enemies 4 Lyfe!!

Spoiler!

We engineers were too ####ing busy to care too much. And I guarantee you had a lot more fun at uni than we did.

()

Engineering education in Canada is so heavily regulated by the CEAB (by extension, all the provincial professional associations) that frankly it doesn't matter all that much where you go, if you're going to do one of the traditional disciplines. If you're wanting to do a particular specialty it may be worth going to a particular school, if only for the industry connections; e.g. 10+ years ago if you wanted to specialize in petroleum engineering? Go to UofC, no question. Manufacturing? Go somewhere in Ontario—Windsor, Western, Ottawa, McMaster. Or McGill. Etc.

Originally Posted by Wormius

Nothing against U of C (though I have been on the receiving end of some very iffy engineering interns though). We are just philosophically opposed to our kids sticking around in their comfort zones. Time to spread their wings and fly and have new experiences with the safety net a little further away.

Anecdotally the iffiest interns I've had have been from UofC and UNB, but it had little to do with their education, I think; more so they were ultimately just not interested in what we do. Which, eh... I get, it's not for everyone, and they're still figuring out what they want to do.

Anecdotally, the only students (and new grads) I've ever worked with who had piss-poor attitudes and were haughty and condescending about where they went to school were from UofT and Waterloo. The only engineers I've worked with who mistreated technologists and drafters with arrogance, derision and scorn were UofT and Waterloo grads. As such those universities' grads are ones I treat with suspicion, biased and unfair as that may be.





With respect to the overarching discussion about kids moving away for post-secondary or going local, I don't know what the "better" option is for creating a more well-rounded adult. I never had the option, myself. My parents couldn't financially support me, and I didn't qualify for enough in student loans to pay for living somewhere hundreds/thousands of kilometres away on top of tuition/books/supplies. The only way I made it work such as it was was scholarships/bursaries/grants, working over the summers and squirrelling away as much as possible, and my parents graciously allowing me to live 'at home' rent-free so long as I stayed in school, did >1/2 the housework and paid for 1/2 the household groceries. Generally I was flat broke all the time.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by timun

Spoiler!

We engineers were too ####ing busy to care too much. And I guarantee you had a lot more fun at uni than we did.

()

Engineering education in Canada is so heavily regulated by the CEAB (by extension, all the provincial professional associations) that frankly it doesn't matter all that much where you go, if you're going to do one of the traditional disciplines. If you're wanting to do a particular specialty it may be worth going to a particular school, if only for the industry connections; e.g. 10+ years ago if you wanted to specialize in petroleum engineering? Go to UofC, no question. Manufacturing? Go somewhere in Ontario—Windsor, Western, Ottawa, McMaster. Or McGill. Etc.



Anecdotally the iffiest interns I've had have been from UofC and UNB, but it had little to do with their education, I think; more so they were ultimately just not interested in what we do. Which, eh... I get, it's not for everyone, and they're still figuring out what they want to do.

Anecdotally, the only students (and new grads) I've ever worked with who had piss-poor attitudes and were haughty and condescending about where they went to school were from UofT and Waterloo. The only engineers I've worked with who mistreated technologists and drafters with arrogance, derision and scorn were UofT and Waterloo grads. As such those universities' grads are ones I treat with suspicion, biased and unfair as that may be.





With respect to the overarching discussion about kids moving away for post-secondary or going local, I don't know what the "better" option is for creating a more well-rounded adult. I never had the option, myself. My parents couldn't financially support me, and I didn't qualify for enough in student loans to pay for living somewhere hundreds/thousands of kilometres away on top of tuition/books/supplies. The only way I made it work such as it was was scholarships/bursaries/grants, working over the summers and squirrelling away as much as possible, and my parents graciously allowing me to live 'at home' rent-free so long as I stayed in school, did >1/2 the housework and paid for 1/2 the household groceries. Generally I was flat broke all the time.

Yes, yes....now do as I say.

When you're a kid its a bit of a fun rivalry, but you're right...that Engineering degree is tough.

Probably the hardest degree at U of C. It is a massive workload.

[bigtmac19]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont know you personally, but I'll tell you what happens a lot in my line of work.

"Hey...can you take on my Business? My Accountant Retired."

- Oh they did, did they? Whats their name? *Google shows they are up and running.*

My favourite one happened just this year.

"My Accountant went home to India, she took all of my documents with her and then when she got to India she burned them all!"

Yes. Thats insane.



Nothing to do with you or your situation mind you.

Hahaha. Have heard that story of the lost accountant/records so often. One time was actually legit and it took us several years to clean up the mess left, file past returns and recreate the information because the records were gone.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

No, and if I had a nickel for every time my doctor left the country permanently I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice and I'm starting to wonder if it's something I'm doing wrong..

2nd Doctor: How did you get rid of him?
1st Doctor: Told him I left the country!

Spoiler!

[puffnstuff]

Cool stroy bro...
My doctor actually did leave the country. It was years ago now.
The doc i had as a child, awesome guy. I quit going for regular checkups after i became an adult and really only needed an ER for stitches and tetanus shots. But when i did need a doc at about 26 or so, i looked him up and his office had closed. Literally 2 days later, i see him on the news. He had closed his practice and set up clinics in central Africa dealing with children, malaria, HIV etc. I donated money to his endeavor.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont know you personally, but I'll tell you what happens a lot in my line of work.

"Hey...can you take on my Business? My Accountant Retired."

- Oh they did, did they? Whats their name? *Google shows they are up and running.*

You had me worried, I Googled... and all I can say is if it's a fake out they've gone a long way to make it seem legit because they truly do both seem to be gone.

Anyway, I went out to the far reaches of the suburbs and found somewhere that could get me an inhaler. Certain death averted. I'm sure you were all worried.

[DownInFlames]

Wait, are you telling me my doctor didn’t really go back to school?

[Whynotnow]

I almost never feel hungry first thing in the morning. Except for today….and I have a medical test later this morning so I can’t eat. As a result this morning I have a raging beast in my stomach that needs to be fed and can’t be.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It's basically impossible to get into a walk-in medical clinic, apparently. My doctor left the country and I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement yet. So I figure there must be a walk in clinic somewhere in the city that can see me, right? Not a chance, most are full by 6 and others don't even pick up the phone. I guess I have to go to the ER? Kind of at a loss...

The walk-in clinic in Mission is usually pretty easy to go to. Also, if you go first thing in the morning there is almost no one there.

[CliffFletcher]

Losing a family doctor sucks. Especially once you hit middle age.

I didn’t care if I had a family doctor in my 20s and 30s - I’d just go to a walk-in clinic if I had an issue (so maybe once every 2-3 years). But when you get older, even if you’re in overall good health you tend to develop nagging, chronic issues where it helps to have a doctor who knows your history. My family doctor not only knows my history, he’s been the doctor for my special needs brother (who I’m the caregiver for) for 20 years and is great with him. And he still checks in on my dad, who’s in a care home now.

But he’s retiring in four months and nobody has bought his practice yet.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Losing a family doctor sucks. Especially once you hit middle age.

I didn’t care if I had a family doctor in my 20s and 30s - I’d just go to a walk-in clinic if I had an issue (so maybe once every 2-3 years). But when you get older, even if you’re in overall good health you tend to develop nagging, chronic issues where it helps to have a doctor who knows your history. My family doctor not only knows my history, he’s been the doctor for my special needs brother (who I’m the caregiver for) for 20 years and is great with him. And he still checks in on my dad, who’s in a care home now.

But he’s retiring in four months and nobody has bought his practice yet.

This is the thing about Family Doctors and Dentists, its not really an industry with significant differentiation so their main goal is throughput.

But there are only so many people you can run through in a day and retain a modicum of sanity.

[Dentoman]

Originally Posted by Locke

This is the thing about Family Doctors and Dentists, its not really an industry with significant differentiation so their main goal is throughput.

But there are only so many people you can run through in a day and retain a modicum of sanity.

Don't drag us into this conversation ..... there is not a shortage of dentists at the moment. Way too many actually

[TorqueDog]

Your username makes way more sense now, I thought you were part of the Calgary Puck lawyer contingent.