Israel declares war on Hamas

[TherapyforGlencross]

I think it’s becoming clear that radical islam is a major problem. Calling for a worldwide jihad is beyond bonkers.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

I think it’s becoming clear that radical islam is a major problem. Calling for a worldwide jihad is beyond bonkers.

This has always been clear, I think.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Okay. What WOULD you do?

Not sure, but probably try to gather consensus from the rest of the world at the UN on how to proceed, with the focus on peace/cease fire and not crushing the millions of innocent people in harm's way in the route they've chosen. Seems to me there are alternate options where less innocent people die (assuming you consider innocent Palestinians 'innocent people', which I do).

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

For Pepsi, Fuzz, PsycNet and others I would ask:

If you were in charge of Israel on Oct.8 what would you do?

Not sure why I'm so special!


Honestly I have no idea. It's gone wrong for so long I don't know what to do about it. One thing Israel COULD do is stop the settlements and gradual swiss cheezing of the West Bank. It's hard to say Hamas is the fault of all problems when you are breaking international law for no good reason(I know, the good reason is to take all the West Bank eventually). It's one of the reasons I don't want anything to do with getting Israeli citizenship. Obviously this does very little for the immediate situation.

[WCW Nitro]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

For Pepsi, Fuzz, PsycNet and others I would ask:

If you were in charge of Israel on Oct.8 what would you do?

It would be political suicide perhaps , but I would do a hostage/captive exchange and try to make a deal that no new settlements will be built/easing of blockade in exchange for no fire from Gaza. In order to "sell" this to the public in would say that the hostages loves are too precious to risk. None of this is good for Israel too the constant stress of conflict and it should look at the long-term.

[_Q_]

Israel carries takes out Syria's 2 major airports.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-...eppo-airports/

Syrian state media reported that Israeli airstrikes on Thursday hit the international airports of the capital Damascus and the northern city of Aleppo, damaging their runways and putting them out of service.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Israel carries takes out Syria's 2 major airports.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-...eppo-airports/

These are civilian airports, no? Why would they escalate like this?

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by activeStick

These are civilian airports, no? Why would they escalate like this?

Maybe to stop iran from supplying Hezbollah? Maybe they have Intel we don't know about? Maybe to bring on Armageddon and the coming of the Messiah!

Who knows.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by activeStick

These are civilian airports, no? Why would they escalate like this?

They are trying to cut off the supply lines. Those routes probably go from Iran then to Syria then to Hezbollah and Hamas.

Hamas was using more advanced Iranian made rockets and drones this time around. No one knows exactly how they got in. The theory is that they are being dropped from planes into the Mediterranean Sea, then taken ashore and smuggle in via tunnels in the Sinai dessert.

I'm not sure I would call cutting off these supply lines an escalation.

[WCW Nitro]

https://twitter.com/BowesChay/status...91941269532976

On Sky news ex Israeli PM Naftali Bennett was asked-

"What about the babies in incubators in Gaza who's life support has been turned off because the Israelis have cut off the power"

His answer - Are you serious asking about Palestinian civilians? What's wrong with you?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

For Pepsi, Fuzz, PsycNet and others I would ask:

If you were in charge of Israel on Oct.8 what would you do?

I know you keep asking this question, but I don’t think there’s any value in roleplaying foreign policy, certainly not under some limited condition that the answer can only be what would be done on that day specifically, and not what wouldn’t be done or what could have been done differently in the years prior.

But what would I have liked to see? A focus on humanitarian efforts and protecting civilians on both sides of the border, instead of collective punishment, ruthlessness, and revenge.

So far it looks like Israel has killed 10% of the civilians that Russia has killed in Ukraine, in less than a week vs almost two years.

How many civilians would you kill to wipe out Hamas, if you knew you would succeed? What would be your personal limit?

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

I think it’s becoming clear that radical islam is a major problem. Calling for a worldwide jihad is beyond bonkers.

I think radicalism in general needs to be eliminated. This isn't just an islam thing.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

https://twitter.com/BowesChay/status...91941269532976

On Sky news ex Israeli PM Naftali Bennett was asked-

"What about the babies in incubators in Gaza who's life support has been turned off because the Israelis have cut off the power"

His answer - Are you serious asking about Palestinian civilians? What's wrong with you?

This guy is straight up human filth.

[TherapyforGlencross]

Originally Posted by _Q_

I think radicalism in general needs to be eliminated. This isn't just an islam thing.

Hmm, I’ve yet to see a militant Christian jihad in my lifetime (perhaps the Troubles). But we have witnessed factions such as ISIS and Hamas, whose biggest goal is a jihad. Not even including governments such as the Taliban. Islam, being a younger religion makes sense, but this isn’t the Middle Ages any more

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

Hmm, I’ve yet to see a militant Christian jihad in my lifetime (perhaps the Troubles). But we have witnessed factions such as ISIS and Hamas, whose biggest goal is a jihad. Not even including governments such as the Taliban. Islam, being a younger religion makes sense, but this isn’t the Middle Ages any more

QANON, incels, white supremacists, some instances of Christian extremism, etc.

Not really a shortage of extremists outside Islam.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

Hmm, I’ve yet to see a militant Christian jihad in my lifetime (perhaps the Troubles). But we have witnessed factions such as ISIS and Hamas, whose biggest goal is a jihad. Not even including governments such as the Taliban. Islam, being a younger religion makes sense, but this isn’t the Middle Ages any more

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

QANON, incels, white supremacists, some instances of Christian extremism, etc.

Not really a shortage of extremists outside Islam.

There are numerous examples of Christians killing people because God told them to do it. The waffle House killer last year is the first one that comes to my mind. He said that God told him to kill those people. Any religion will make people go crazy, it is a unifying factor.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

Hmm, I’ve yet to see a militant Christian jihad in my lifetime (perhaps the Troubles). But we have witnessed factions such as ISIS and Hamas, whose biggest goal is a jihad. Not even including governments such as the Taliban. Islam, being a younger religion makes sense, but this isn’t the Middle Ages any more

Evangelical Christians undying support for Israel to bring on the rapture so Jesus can kill all the jews.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

Hmm, I’ve yet to see a militant Christian jihad in my lifetime (perhaps the Troubles). But we have witnessed factions such as ISIS and Hamas, whose biggest goal is a jihad. Not even including governments such as the Taliban. Islam, being a younger religion makes sense, but this isn’t the Middle Ages any more

Oh, Christian extremism is very apparent in today's world. Look at how Trump ignited his voter base. That's the who's who of American Christian Extremism. UK is no different lately,

Other than that, those who would be the true vile jihadists of the Christian world are also in total power of said Christian world I.e the Vatican, the monarchy (Can I interest you in a crusade or 3?).

We don't see that because Christians on the whole, rule. And who's going to stop them since it's a Christian Nation with the biggest arsenal ever amassed (U.S) by a country mile.

Plus I'm pretty sure it's Christians in all their combined controlling wisdom who've pitter everyone else against each other while they reap the rewards.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

Hmm, I’ve yet to see a militant Christian jihad in my lifetime (perhaps the Troubles). But we have witnessed factions such as ISIS and Hamas, whose biggest goal is a jihad. Not even including governments such as the Taliban. Islam, being a younger religion makes sense, but this isn’t the Middle Ages any more

Nah I lived through the troubles, Irish kids might take a bit of stick now and then after a bombing but on the whole we didn't blame them or Catholics in general, bombs came with a warning so that civilians weren't killed, it went wrong some times but compared to Muslim terror it was incredibly gentlemanly

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It’s a mistake to see these actions through the lens of rational, long-term political strategy. Hamas has a lot more in common with al-Qaeda and ISIS than with the PLO.

Which is a bit tragic considering Israel used to fund and support Hamas as a counterweight against the PLO.