Practice Notes Oct 10

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

Lines look good, except for the $16-mil third line.

Call it the 2nd line, and call the $11M 2nd line the 3rd line, if it makes you feel better (since the lines are interchangeable anyway).

Having a $2.35M 4th line doesn't hurt either

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1711779560176730315

https://twitter.com/user/status/1711779900775182436

That PP2 is going to be brutal and inept.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Haven't watched the full Barnburner video yet, but can anyone confirm if Conroy was also wearing a white glove during the interview?

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

That PP2 is going to be brutal and inept.

It's definitely a possibility. That said, I don't see how you would improve PP2 without weakening PP1.

The main priority is to make PP1 be as effective as possible. If they're effective you can use them for 1.5 of the 2 PP mins. I mean which team has offensive juggernauts as their 5th - 9th forwards?

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah I don't quite understand why Weegar isn't on either of the units.

So right. I would take Weegar over Ras

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I'm just glad Coro is on the first unit.

I've missed that lethal right handed blast on our pp1

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

It's definitely a possibility. That said, I don't see how you would improve PP2 without weakening PP1.

The main priority is to make PP1 be as effective as possible. If they're effective you can use them for 1.5 of the 2 PP mins. I mean which team has offensive juggernauts as their 5th - 9th forwards?

I think the top unit is going to get the majority of time and if they don't create the momentum that 2nd unit comes out and tried to get the momentum going so when you are back to 5 on 5 that powerplay hasn't deflated the team.

Seems like it was a 50 seconds of zone time if you could do it and if it got knocked out it was time to change right away.

I think the ice time increase for Huberdeau will come from longer PP shifts maybe more 5v5 time.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Thought Conroy's closing comments were interesting re: his involvement with the coaches and the line up choices.

Thought it was super interesting that he said Treliving was very much down there and wanted to be involved in line up decisions, where as Burke's philosophy was you hired the coach to do that, stay out of it. Conny said he's going to take more of the Burke approach.

Just found that interesting re: the tension with Tre and Daryl. A lot of talk about Sutter maybe playing games with the line up to force roster moves from the GM, and just one data point, but also sounds like Tre might not have been helping much in that department if he was trying to get into Daryl's kitchen a bunch. Not sure you go out and hire a super tenured coach (especially Daryl) and expect things are going to go well if you want daily input into the line up. BTW - maybe reading too much into it, but the way Conny said it, seemed like it was more of a consistent stylistic thing for Tre, vs. he started doing it with Daryl at the end because he wasn't like player usage type of thing.

[Johnny Makarov]

I'll give Rasmus 5 games to show he belongs on PP1. Which is way more games than he deserves from last year. Weegar, Zadarov or a forward would be better options.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I'll give Rasmus 5 games to show he belongs on PP1. Which is way more games than he deserves from last year. Weegar, Zadarov or a forward would be better options.

Oh noes! What happens after five games?

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

That PP2 is going to be brutal and inept.

I would be curious the differences of PP1 vs PP2 last season. I guess it wouldn't be a good comparison since PP1 is always getting most of the special teams time.

[Phaneufenstein]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Oh noes! What happens after five games?

Summary execution

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Thought Conroy's closing comments were interesting re: his involvement with the coaches and the line up choices.

Thought it was super interesting that he said Treliving was very much down there and wanted to be involved in line up decisions, where as Burke's philosophy was you hired the coach to do that, stay out of it. Conny said he's going to take more of the Burke approach.

Just found that interesting re: the tension with Tre and Daryl. A lot of talk about Sutter maybe playing games with the line up to force roster moves from the GM, and just one data point, but also sounds like Tre might not have been helping much in that department if he was trying to get into Daryl's kitchen a bunch. Not sure you go out and hire a super tenured coach (especially Daryl) and expect things are going to go well if you want daily input into the line up. BTW - maybe reading too much into it, but the way Conny said it, seemed like it was more of a consistent stylistic thing for Tre, vs. he started doing it with Daryl at the end because he wasn't like player usage type of thing.

He also said without a C there was no one who felt like could walk into Sutter's office etc. And we know Tre had a good relationship with a lot of the players (Backs even said this recently) so I suspect the tension was players going to Brad to talk about Sutter and Sutter feeling like Brad was stepping in his kitchen when he's rather the Players step up and stand up to him. Rinse repeat.

[Paulie Walnuts]

That whole dynamic with Sutter not wanting a captain, Treliving going into the room, the players having no voice just seems toxic at every level.

Just glad we can go back to a normal set up and not a tense environment. You could feel the tension watching that team last year.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Phaneufenstein

Summary execution

I expect nothing less.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I'll give Rasmus 5 games to show he belongs on PP1. Which is way more games than he deserves from last year. Weegar, Zadarov or a forward would be better options.

Zadorov?....yeah I don't think so lol. Even as a joke that is too far.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

It's definitely a possibility. That said, I don't see how you would improve PP2 without weakening PP1.

The main priority is to make PP1 be as effective as possible. If they're effective you can use them for 1.5 of the 2 PP mins. I mean which team has offensive juggernauts as their 5th - 9th forwards?

Well simply putting Yegor on PP2 would go a long way without weakening PP1.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Zadorov?....yeah I don't think so lol. Even as a joke that is too far.

He did lead all Flames D with 14 goals last season, but he's definitely not the best puck distributor on the blue line.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I think you know the answer

Hahah I don't actually, friend

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

It's definitely a possibility. That said, I don't see how you would improve PP2 without weakening PP1.

Putting a RHS somewhere on PP2 will make it less awful. Having all LHS makes it very easy to defend.