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Old 10-03-2023, 03:34 PM   #9201
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In fairness....could you find a Liberal without an Ethics violation?

They've made it pretty clear since Day 1 that they feel that the rules dont apply to them.
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Then the question becomes, what is the next step? Is this merely a precursor to significant regulation in this space, or is it relatively benign data collection that will be used to inform policy (or something in between)?
Indeed. This is my question, I have little faith in this government given their already well known ethical problems to be meddling in this space.
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At least it wasn't Mark Gerrettsen, but close enough.
Or Marc Miller for that matter.
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I think I know who Justin is going to dress up as for Halloween this year.

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Manitoba NDPs leading. Liberals are just non-existant at provincial level now. Could this be the case eventually at federal level?
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Nor federal, but the NDP just won in Manitoba. First FN Premier ever.
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In fairness....could you find a Liberal without an Ethics violation?

They've made it pretty clear since Day 1 that they feel that the rules dont apply to them.
I was going to ask. With everything that's going on, why, why, WHY would they put a guy in that spot who was found guilty of ethics violation?! Do they not consider optics at all in their decisions?
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Old 10-04-2023, 08:17 AM   #9209
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Or Marc Miller for that matter.

I think Marc would have been a decent pick for the job, but his rants on X over the last few weeks have been a bit unhinged.
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I was going to ask. With everything that's going on, why, why, WHY would they put a guy in that spot who was found guilty of ethics violation?! Do they not consider optics at all in their decisions?
I’m assuming they figured the optics of Fergus being a Black Canadian will have more of an impact electorally than the optics of him being guilty of ethics violations. That would be pretty on-brand for the Liberals.
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Nor federal, but the NDP just won in Manitoba. First FN Premier ever.
Honestly don't even care if he is NDP or Liberal, but glad to see that divisive and incompetent people like everyone running the Manitoba PC Party are thrown out.

It was their election to lose, and I really think they completely blew it.

But lets not go ahead and compare the Manitoba NDP to the morons at the federal NDP, k?
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Honestly don't even care if he is NDP or Liberal, but glad to see that divisive and incompetent people like everyone running the Manitoba PC Party are thrown out.

It was their election to lose, and I really think they completely blew it.

But lets not go ahead and compare the Manitoba NDP to the morons at the federal NDP, k?
Seems like they are well on their way.

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Old 10-04-2023, 09:46 AM   #9213
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Seems like they are well on their way.

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In fairness....could you find a Liberal without an Ethics violation?

They've made it pretty clear since Day 1 that they feel that the rules dont apply to them.
To be fair to Trudeau this is an issue that's plagued the party dating back decades as it's their deep rooted party issue much like the CP's deep rooted and outdated religious issues. He's just kicked things up a notch over his terms.
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To be fair to Trudeau this is an issue that's plagued the party dating back decades as it's their deep rooted party issue much like the CP's deep rooted and outdated religious issues. He's just kicked things up a notch over his terms.
I don't think Trudeau has any more or more serious ethics issues than previous PMs, Premiers or opposition leaders. IMO the difference is that his issues seem to stem from political strategies (eg SNC and trying to create a job outcome to win votes) versus cronyism and grift (eg Ford and the Greenbelt) or fanaticism (Smith and her prosecution interference).
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The Manitoba NDP won? Uh oh, looking forward to the incoming, tired right-wing lexicon including (but not limited to): socialism / communism / marxism / libs / libtards / woke / left / lefties / woke left / own the libs / Trudope / Jagmeet / Nutley / Laurentian elites / WEF / Hunter Biden / invermectin / freedom / etc.

If I've missed one, please - add to this list!
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Well there goes the eastward expansion of Moreberta.
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The Manitoba NDP won? Uh oh, looking forward to the incoming, tired right-wing lexicon including (but not limited to): socialism / communism / marxism / libs / libtards / woke / left / lefties / woke left / own the libs / Trudope / Jagmeet / Nutley / Laurentian elites / WEF / Hunter Biden / invermectin / freedom / etc.

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I’m looking forward to seeing how things work out there in the next 3 or 4 years. All the best Manitoba!

I sincerely mean that, I hope that provinces does well. I haven’t followed any of their provincial politics in the past, and probably won’t follow closely now.
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The best part is how seemingly we need to create a society as if we don't have one already.

Have to destroy one before we can build the other. But we don't have to worry about it since socialists have yet to create jack ####.
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