2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Hanifin wants to take himself to market and have a say in where he plays. Which is fine.

The only question now is if he’s traded as a rental at the deadline, or kept for a Flames playoff run and walked to UFA.

I think we know what will happen here.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Why on earth do people have any notion that Bryam would be available?

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Why on earth do people have any notion that Bryam would be available?

This is what happens when it becomes normal to microdose mushrooms 🍄

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I do worry that the market for Hanifin might be soft because people feel like he's set on Boston.

Boston born kid, who also went to Boston College, have to think his dream is to play for the Bruins. It's never been confirmed who exactly the Bruins were targetting in 2015 either but the rumor always has been they had those 3 first round picks and were trying hard to move up to get Hanifin too.

And unfortunately even though Bruins are in a bit of cap hell this season, things line up pretty nice for them to be able to add him next season.

They have the $4.5M from the Bergeron/Krecji bonus overages off the book, $3.0M from Derek Forbort, and $3.6M from Matt Grzelcyk expiring next year. Only $59M committed to the cap overall next season.

Really I don't think them going $7M+ for Hanifin will be an issue for them at all.

Lindholm-Mcavoy
Hanifin-Carlo

That becomes a pretty elite top 4 too.

So they are going to pay Hanifin $7M a year and continue to have no centre depth?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Another grain of salt moment:

James Wilson of nhltraderumors speculates that the Avs may circle back to Mikael Backlund, with D Samuel Girard coming back. The latest info seems to be that Backs will sign with the Flames, but if he was still on his way out, this would be a good scenario. Girard has been buried a bit on the Avs, with Makar and Toews ahead of him on the depth chart, but he's a swift-skating, puck-moving offensive D with great hockey sense who could blossom with more responsibility. It would make even more sense if the team plans to move Hanifin at some point.

I just don’t see Girard available until the Avs figure out what they do with Toews. If they’d rather keep Toews then I see Girard being moved.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I just don’t see Girard available until the Avs figure out what they do with Toews. If they’d rather keep Toews then I see Girard being moved.

Oh, they definitely want to keep Toews, he’s an elite D-man. Their problem is finding the cap space to re-sign him.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Oh, they definitely want to keep Toews, he’s an elite D-man. Their problem is finding the cap space to re-sign him.

Yeah. Toews over Girard isn’t even a discussion

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So they are going to pay Hanifin $7M a year and continue to have no centre depth?

Calgary did it for years.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Calgary did it for years.

Ya, how did that work out?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So they are going to pay Hanifin $7M a year and continue to have no centre depth?

How does signing Hanifin prevent them from signing a C?

They will have close to 30M in cap space according to CF.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ya, how did that work out?

Just sayin. Its not unheard of.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by transplant99

How does signing Hanifin prevent them from signing a C?

They will have close to 30M in cap space according to CF.

It doesn't. I am just saying maybe signing Hanifin to a $7M AAV should not be priority #1. If they sign their upcoming UFA's including DeBrusk and sign two top 6 C's that pretty much eats that up.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I know it's unlikely, but if we're trading Hanifin I would love it if we could add assets to Hanifin for a younger player. Or use some of the assets we get back for Hanifin package with some of our own to get a young D.

D I would love to see the Flames target: Bowen Byram(COL), Michael Anderson(LAK), Cam York(PHI), Rasmus Sandin(WSH), K'Andre Miller(NYR), Ryan Lindgren(NYR).

Unlikely any of them will be available, but that would be the sort of direction I would like CGY to go in.

Can't see Byram, Sandin (lights out after coming over to Caps from Toronto), or Miller being available, but the others are a distant possibility, perhaps. Lindgren was for sure rumored to be on the block this summer, and he would be a good pick-up, as he's got fire and toughness.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ya, how did that work out?

About the same as how it’s gone since we have had center strength.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Why on earth do people have any notion that Bryam would be available?

If you're referring to me I mentioned it's unlikely any of those D are available.

Crazy trades do happen in the NHL when a team is going for a cup. Seguin was traded for Loui Eriksson for example.

A remote possibility that he becomes available if COL decides to lock up Toews for the same contact given to Makar.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

If you're referring to me I mentioned it's unlikely any of those D are available.

Crazy trades do happen in the NHL when a team is going for a cup. Seguin was traded for Loui Eriksson for example.

Peter Chiarelli is the worst GM of the modern era.

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Why on earth do people have any notion that Bryam would be available?

Never said or insinuated he was. Just a comment on a player I’d much prefer over Girard in reference to Colorado. Not to mention we don’t have a player comparable to trade 1v1 for Bo, so of course it wouldn’t happen for Backlund no matter what.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Peter Chiarelli is the worst GM of the modern era.

Forever a Flame

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Oh, they definitely want to keep Toews, he’s an elite D-man. Their problem is finding the cap space to re-sign him.

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yeah. Toews over Girard isn’t even a discussion

It is when cap space is involved. The value of girard at 5m and retaining Byram (and utilizing the saved space for his eventual raise) might be more enticing than keeping Toews who may likely more than double his salary come 2024.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It doesn't. I am just saying maybe signing Hanifin to a $7M AAV should not be priority #1. If they sign their upcoming UFA's including DeBrusk and sign two top 6 C's that pretty much eats that up.

Even if they do re-sign Debrusk, I think they do look at another top 4 dman being a priority along with a C. They plan on using Coyle and Zacha as C's so don't think they need 2 Centers, probably just really looking for that true top 6 offensive center.

Marchand - ??? - Pastrnak
Debrusk - Zacha - Frederic
??? - Coyle - Geekie

Lindholm - McAvoy
???? - Carlo

IMO more than enough money to fit in a C, Hanifin, and Debrusk.