2023 Toronto Blue Jays Season Thread

[Karl]

This sucks. Most of those pitches from Richards weren't even bad.

[Skaloper]

Originally Posted by Karl

This sucks. Most of those pitches from Richards weren't even bad.

Yup guy hits a HR off his shoe strings... not much you can do about that

[activeStick]

Wow, the Moustached One does it again

[Inferno]

They just can't stop making things harder on themselves than it should be.

[Karl]

That was a dud game.

[flamingred89]

Not to be a downer because the movement in the standings has been favourable. But a 4-2 stretch against awful teams isn't ideal. Need to sweep KC to make this stretch palatable. The great teams go on runs from time to time.

[Strange Brew]

I don't know you're not winning every game, even against bad teams. Yankees just swept the Astros on the road and two games later, Astros find themselves in first place.

[KelVarnsen]

Even when they win the offence looks anemic. At least the majority of time. I know they have injuries but they’ve looked anemic pretty much all season.

It’s a problem.

[Whynotnow]

0 for 12 from Springer, Vladdy and Whit. $44 million of salary contributing zero.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

Not to be a downer because the movement in the standings has been favourable. But a 4-2 stretch against awful teams isn't ideal. Need to sweep KC to make this stretch palatable. The great teams go on runs from time to time.

It's pretty much what you'd expect - both those awful teams win about 1/3 games on average.

Ideally you'd go 5-1 there but 4-2 isn't the end of the world.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's pretty much what you'd expect - both those awful teams win about 1/3 games on average.

Ideally you'd go 5-1 there but 4-2 isn't the end of the world.

The bottom feeding teams play each other though, so some of their wins are also against bottom feeders. So while you're right 4-2 isn't the end of the world, if you want to be a playoff team you have to beat teams more than they lose on average.

[Strange Brew]

Winning 55% of your games means you're a playoff team. So taking 2 of 3 on the road from a bad team is just fine.

This is baseball, you can't get down after every loss.

[Mathgod]

A week ago these guys were 3.5 games out. They are now in a wc spot even with today's loss. Perspective is key.

[Samonadreau]

Yup, Jays just have to outplay the Rangers now down the stretch and the next 2 series are another bottom feeder in KC and then a series against the Rangers. They control their own destiny.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Yup, Jays just have to outplay the Rangers now down the stretch and the next 2 series are another bottom feeder in KC and then a series against the Rangers. They control their own destiny.

Definitely. The combination of their games against the Rangers and the AL west contenders playing each other mean they absolutely control their own destiny here.

I don't love having the last 4 series against AL east teams given how that has gone, but the Yankees should be playing out the string by then.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Winning 55% of your games means you're a playoff team. So taking 2 of 3 on the road from a bad team is just fine.

This is baseball, you can't get down after every loss.

Agreed.

People also seem to be forgetting that we are missing Bo, Chapman and Jansen too.

That's our top two fWAR position players and 2.0 fWAR catcher. Three out of our top six fWAR players this season.

EDIT: Also missing Belt, another 2.0 fWAR player and that makes four out of the top six out.

[KelVarnsen]

Bluebird Banter has a poll on Not Babe Schneider. Right now 55% of the votes has disapprove of how he is doing the job.

https://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2023/...eider-is-doing

[Strange Brew]

Outplaying the Rangers shouldn't be hard. I don't see them bouncing back from that series against the Astros. We're witnessing a classic collapse.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Bluebird Banter has a poll on Not Babe Schneider. Right now 55% of the votes has disapprove of how he is doing the job.

https://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2023/...eider-is-doing

Sports is getting dumb. If a team is not having an absolute perfect season "fans" want the coach or manager fired, not remembering that x number of years ago they were clamoring for the last coach to be fired and the new guy to be hired.

Yes, Schneider has made some mistakes, but to me anyway, he seems to have the right relationship with the players and in baseball, I think that is #1. Ball players spend more time than any other sport together so it's important to have someone who is relatable to the players.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by zukes

not remembering that x number of years ago they were clamoring for the last coach to be fired and the new guy to be hired

People didn't necessarily want Schneider hired, they just wanted them to finally move on from Montoyo and were willing to give him a chance the rest of the season to see what he could do. Many were disappointed they didn't hire someone else that was more proven.

Like Montoyo, he's a nice guy but he's over his head. Just like Geoff Ward with the Flames who was another guy who should have never been extended after taking over the job on a interim basis.