09-06-2023, 01:56 PM
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#7641
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Eklund making up some stuff regarding a Flames-Leafs blockbuster
Names mentioned were Mangiapane and Hanifin from the Flames and it was noted the Flames like Nylander, Liljegren, Knies.
Eklund is literally throwing names around. Not believing it for a second but maybe something different to discuss?
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It seems pretty apparent that Nylander isn't in the long term plans of the Leafs and I would love to see him on the Flames without getting into cap and all that. That part always tends to rain on the parade. The Leafs need to dump cap and the Flames can't really take on cap, so Arizona would have to get involved somehow.
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09-06-2023, 02:00 PM
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#7642
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Regardless of acquisition cost, I just can't see Nylander extending for a reasonable amount in Calgary.
The Flames should actually invest in the guys that they already have in the system. And the Flames should try to build assets.
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09-06-2023, 03:23 PM
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#7643
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Cappy
My wife thinks he's hot.
I certainly don't need that kind of competition around. Not right now, at least
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Agree. Now doesn't work for me either. I am like 100 sit-ups away from having my #### back together though. Per day. For the next month.
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09-06-2023, 04:09 PM
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#7644
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Regardless of acquisition cost, I just can't see Nylander extending for a reasonable amount in Calgary.
The Flames should actually invest in the guys that they already have in the system. And the Flames should try to build assets.
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Willy is going to be a UFA at 28 and likely have posted three consecutive PPG seasons.
If we’re talking about a .8-1ppg player in Lindholm getting $9M at (effectively) 30 years old, then what’s reasonable for Willy?
$11M+ easily in my eyes, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable given where things seem to be going.
If we sign Lindy, I think the Flames need to go out and offer Willy $11.5M to try and add to the top of the roster, because that’s where the Flames need the most help in this attempt to stay relevant. Heck, perhaps there’s a Flames premium that may push it to $12M.
Last edited by ComixZone; 09-06-2023 at 04:11 PM.
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09-06-2023, 05:01 PM
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#7645
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Willy is going to be a UFA at 28 and likely have posted three consecutive PPG seasons.
If we’re talking about a .8-1ppg player in Lindholm getting $9M at (effectively) 30 years old, then what’s reasonable for Willy?
$11M+ easily in my eyes, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable given where things seem to be going.
If we sign Lindy, I think the Flames need to go out and offer Willy $11.5M to try and add to the top of the roster, because that’s where the Flames need the most help in this attempt to stay relevant. Heck, perhaps there’s a Flames premium that may push it to $12M.
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There’s no way Nylander is getting an 8 digit contract. Not if he’s wanting 7-8 years.
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09-06-2023, 05:02 PM
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#7646
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Willy is going to be a UFA at 28 and likely have posted three consecutive PPG seasons.
If we’re talking about a .8-1ppg player in Lindholm getting $9M at (effectively) 30 years old, then what’s reasonable for Willy?
$11M+ easily in my eyes, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable given where things seem to be going.
If we sign Lindy, I think the Flames need to go out and offer Willy $11.5M to try and add to the top of the roster, because that’s where the Flames need the most help in this attempt to stay relevant. Heck, perhaps there’s a Flames premium that may push it to $12M.
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Two way center will carry a premium versus a winger. 12 million for Nylander is just using hyperbole to try and make the Lindholm contract look worse. If anything Huberdeau is the better comparable and he had better stats going into his extension.
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09-06-2023, 06:23 PM
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#7647
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Willy is going to be a UFA at 28 and likely have posted three consecutive PPG seasons.
If we’re talking about a .8-1ppg player in Lindholm getting $9M at (effectively) 30 years old, then what’s reasonable for Willy?
$11M+ easily in my eyes, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable given where things seem to be going.
If we sign Lindy, I think the Flames need to go out and offer Willy $11.5M to try and add to the top of the roster, because that’s where the Flames need the most help in this attempt to stay relevant. Heck, perhaps there’s a Flames premium that may push it to $12M.
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Or, crazy idea, don't cripple the franchise with either contract and try to recover as gracefully as possible from the mistakes Treliving already farted out before running off to Toronto.
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09-06-2023, 06:30 PM
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#7648
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Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Or, crazy idea, don't cripple the franchise with either contract and try to recover as gracefully as possible from the mistakes Treliving already farted out before running off to Toronto.
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Boring.
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09-06-2023, 06:42 PM
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#7649
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Boring.
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Tbf, I did preface with crazy, not fun. Fun would have also been crazy, but fun left the dock already so we make do with what’s we’ve gots.
Last edited by mrdonkey; 09-06-2023 at 06:46 PM.
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09-06-2023, 07:14 PM
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#7650
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Eklund making up some stuff regarding a Flames-Leafs blockbuster
Names mentioned were Mangiapane and Hanifin from the Flames and it was noted the Flames like Nylander, Liljegren, Knies.
Eklund is literally throwing names around. Not believing it for a second but maybe something different to discuss?
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hmmm, go on...
forgetting cap for a second, i like this deal...Willy is better than Bread, Hanifin is better than Liljegrean and that Knies looks like a player.
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09-06-2023, 07:19 PM
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#7651
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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I can't speak for my fellow Flames fans on this board. I'm extremely excited for training camp, and very excited for the season ahead. I think we're going to see a very exciting brand of hockey and hopefully a big bounce back from Huberdeau!
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09-06-2023, 07:22 PM
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#7652
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by flamesgod
I can't speak for my fellow Flames fans on this board. I'm extremely excited for training camp, and very excited for the season ahead. I think we're going to see a very exciting brand of hockey and hopefully a big bounce back from Huberdeau!
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09-06-2023, 07:26 PM
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#7653
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Originally Posted by flamesgod
I can't speak for my fellow Flames fans on this board. I'm extremely excited for training camp, and very excited for the season ahead. I think we're going to see a very exciting brand of hockey and hopefully a big bounce back from Huberdeau!
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Yeah, should be fun. Everybody is saying the right things and the talent is very obviously there, so it could be a big year.
And if it’s not, then at least it’ll be fun to watch and fun to follow how Conroy turns the team around as I’m sure he’ll get more aggressive with both him and Huska likely mainstays for a few years at least.
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09-06-2023, 07:27 PM
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#7654
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by PuckSlap
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This type of stuff definitely spurs great conversation.
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09-06-2023, 07:30 PM
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#7655
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First Line Centre
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I think the Flames should consider moving Kadri to the RW before bringing on another high priced contract we can't afford.
Huberdeau-Lindholm-Kadri should be a potent top line with a premier distributor, net crasher, and sniper. Lindholm also keeps the trio honest defensively. We already know Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman is dynamite 5 on 5, and the extra minutes will help Mangiapane and Coleman recover a bit of their offensive oomph.
That leaves you with Sharongovich-Dube-Coronato and Pelletier-Ruzicka-Dueher which is a competent bottom 6 with a lot of youth and energy. Sharongovich and Dube both at C so you have options. The Ruzicka line is positioned to attack the white meat and put up some points.
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09-06-2023, 07:36 PM
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#7656
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
It seems pretty apparent that Nylander isn't in the long term plans of the Leafs and I would love to see him on the Flames without getting into cap and all that. That part always tends to rain on the parade. The Leafs need to dump cap and the Flames can't really take on cap, so Arizona would have to get involved somehow.
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Apparent to whom? The Leafs absolutely would like to keep Nylander there long term. It is trying to make the money work and agreeing on his value that is the issue.
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09-06-2023, 09:23 PM
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#7657
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Apparent to whom? The Leafs absolutely would like to keep Nylander there long term. It is trying to make the money work and agreeing on his value that is the issue.
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09-06-2023, 09:28 PM
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#7658
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Eklund making up some stuff regarding a Flames-Leafs blockbuster
Names mentioned were Mangiapane and Hanifin from the Flames and it was noted the Flames like Nylander, Liljegren, Knies.
Eklund is literally throwing names around. Not believing it for a second but maybe something different to discuss?
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I would trade Hanifin straight-up for Knies- no way Toronto gives him up. I loved that kid in his draft year, love him now. He's going to be a star power-forward. Only problem is that he's American.
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09-06-2023, 10:37 PM
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#7659
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Sec214
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Very. I am not saying at the end of the day he might not be in Toronto but I think there is actually a better chance they let him go to free agency then they trade him this season. The Leafs brass believes their window is right now.
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09-06-2023, 11:04 PM
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#7660
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Very. I am not saying at the end of the day he might not be in Toronto but I think there is actually a better chance they let him go to free agency then they trade him this season. The Leafs brass believes their window is right now.
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Well, they certainly have the right GM to do something that stupid.
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